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Lon Guyland's avatar

Very interesting discussion.

One observation that has helped me sort out at least some of the issues is that, stripped bare, there are just three distinct phases of all reality: fact, idea and relation — fact and relation comprising, if you will, the north and south poles that are unified by idea (meaning). You might characterize them as science, philosophy and religion (this latter term referring to the inner experience of contact with divinity, reality, rather than the doctrines that have been formulated to explain such experiences), or as thing, meaning and value (matter, mind and spirit).

The concept of “truth” is naturally a bit muddled, since realities from each of the poles are perceived and evaluated by mind. But an important disjunction may perhaps be illustrated, albeit somewhat crudely, by the distinction between that which sets you free and that which doesn’t (necessarily).

1+1=2 is “true” in a certain, very limited, sense, but can hardly be said to set one free. On the other hand, the truth that you are, and every other individual is, greatly loved and cherished by the Infinite and Eternal Creator and Upholder of all of reality and whose spiritual forces labor for your real (as opposed to perceived) eternal wellbeing, once fully understood, does most assuredly set you free in the domain of value (spirit), irrespective of whatever condition or degree of slavery you might find your material self in.

agent Rogelier than you's avatar

Mathew Crawford argues that the purpose of the "occult" is to cause mass confusion. The politicization of everything also causes mass confusion.

Although I consider myself a midwit, I judge –and I reckon I judge correctly,– that these two tactics (occultism and politicization) are branches of the same tree, but not the same branch.

I further say that the people who cannot be confused with one tactic are very likely wide open to be conquered by the other one.

And it is depressing to increase knowledge of any of these two, but it's even more depressing to be always at the mercy of the obsessions of the occultists and the politicizers. Although it's bitter, it's better to learn than to learn not.

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