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Something that has worried me for some time is hearing online comments by those who insist U.S. military personnel will never fire on Americans from the political right, in the event of great unrest. That anyone could still have faith in such a scenario after what we have been seeing for years now ... is nothing short of amazing. And dismaying.

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Those that would not fire on fellow citizens are being replaced by those that will.

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Those that can fire competently, or fly, or fight in any capacity are being replaced by those that can't.

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Our military cannot win against the Taliban, the Syrians, the Russians and countless others. It is time for the American Patriot to stop fearing them. Americans are not less than many who have defeated this beast.

It is not that the military will not fire on the patriots. It is that they will not win.

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The US military was never defeated by any of those 3. Our military was hamstrung by ridiculous rules of engagement and incompetent leadership in the rear, in every conflict we’ve fought since WWII. We defeated the Taliban in a matter of weeks, using a combination of air power and special ops troops on horseback. We “lose” wars, as you refer to it, because we fail to define victory, use our military as nation builders, attempted to export Democracy as if it were a commodity and failed to fight to win.

Rest assured, in a battle vs the Ultra Radical MAGA Patriots & Veterans, the Marxist Democrats won’t hesitate to wipe us out.

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Call it what you like. We certainly didn't win. We spent and sacrificed and made things worse at home and abroad. 'OH it's only the fault of thw commanders and the politicians and this and that.' However we lost, we lost. Losing in the field or losing in the halls of congress all comes to the same thing.

We can't fly or sail training missions without crashes anymore. The wiring in our superweapons is being eaten by rats because it has 'green' insulation. Our soldiers have great self-esteem and poor aim. 'In Boeing we trust' was always a recipe for failure. Time to leave our failures behind us and look for better ways to go forward.

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That's a bit of a myth. The US was also paying off warlords in Afghanistan with money and with viagra. Let's not mention opening up the opium trade yet again, which indeed bought some loyalty at the cost of drugs flooding into Europe.

Simple fact is that an army needs resources. Fuel, gas, etc. In a civil war, the entire supply line for every aspect is at risk. Want to stop airplanes from functioning? Figure out the transport routes for jet fuel. Ambush trucks as they deliver supplies. Track down the drivers and their families.

Better yet, take out the power grids in major cities. Do you recall what happened with Hurricane Katrina? The USA has large urban populations that will rise up in an orgy of looting and destruction if there is even a whiff of a major event.

America's infrastructure system is so dodgy and vulnerable that large portions of it could be taken out easily. Then you aren't in a "shoot the illiterate peasant from the safety of your helicopter" scenario anymore.

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They'll lose the same way they lost those other conflicts. Because they do not have the capacity to understand the full spectrum of war in the Clausewitzian sense, they have a video game mentality based on a single measure (body count) and it never, ever works. War is a political enterprise. It requires an economy of force to achieve political goals. They cannot do this. They've never been able to do this.

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This is why the military has been purged of patriots and being replaced by non thinking idiots. Soon they will start conscripting non-citizen migrants who have allegiance to nothing and no one.

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The migrants actively hate us. They no longer hide this.

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Migrants, and the third world have been immersed in Critical Race Theory. The UN, in particular, is infested with CRT. The irony is that proponents of this genocidal ideology like to compare their enemies to Hitler.

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The military is an orders-based culture. They will do as they’re told, just as fighter pilots will shoot down an airliner, post-9/11, when ordered to.

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Thank you.

You may find an analysis as good as this one, but you can rest assured that it will be 8,000+ words and full of those cloying conditionals (should, would, could). We are in an existential battle. The time demands short sentences using transitive verbs. To the verbal barricades!

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I’d give this response one thousand likes if I could.

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Also immediately brings to mind the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles about 30 years ago, and the ominous signal sent by the government and law enforcement authorities that did not immediately move to crush the horrifying shit that went on.

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The authorities in LA did allow the rooftop Koreans to forcefully protect their property. Democrats will crush such attempts now.

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Yes. Who could forget those Koreans. God bless em. I did not know the authorities took a hands off approach to them. But a long time ago. Yeah, different rules would apply now, esp. in California

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IIRC the rooftop Koreans got disarmed after they became famous. Then they were destroyed by rioters.

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Thanks. I will check it out.

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I am the fortunate owner of a hard copy of this book, which I read with interest years ago. I suspect the reason it has been "disappeared" is because a few overly-sensitive critics object to what they view as derogatory descriptions of the immigrants. Clearly they couldn't get past that and understand the greater theme of the book.

I think David Irving, who you also mention, is a better example of an author being banned because certain (influential?) people want to discredit his version of history. I've read half a dozen of Irving's books, and his research talents are formidable. His take on history is one perspective, which he supports with exhaustive research, and at the very least deserves to be considered along with all the others.

This is my first visit to this blog, referred by Simplicius--very interesting piece! Now subscribing.

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Our fate well expressed in a nutshell. The United States stands in the queue of failed nations and empires who learned nothing from history. We are not up to the standards required in the constitution, i.e. A moral and righteous people for which it was written.

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I should also add that the USA isn't even a particularly successful empire. It would have been better off as a parochial, unworldly constitutional republic. It is going to have a run of 150 years or so, maybe 200 at the most. Compare that to Byzantium or China.

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The first reviewer (Hayward) may be referring to this when he writes ‘they are all hollow men’. In any case it seems to fit.

https://allpoetry.com/The-Hollow-Men

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Many thanks for this reference!

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In the heat of the moment and at the risk of hasty judgment, this may prove to be an essay read for many years to come. By virtue of your succinct and compelling description of exactly what we are facing in this perilous moment.

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Pretty much the same response as the Turner Diaries.

Both books were worth reading.

Both are overtaken by events and no longer pose a realistic scenario.

Farting against thunder is a waste of effort, walk away and find a better place to spend your efforts.

Any one under 40 who is not learning Mandarin and/or Russian is a fool. At 40 (1986) I could never have imagined the world of 2024, nonetheless, I left the 'West' and am extremely glad that I did.

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You are already beaten, PJ. You wouldn't be part of anyone's future with that attitude, under or over 40.

You'd be the fellow who didn't shoot because you cannot understand why the rest of us won't be learning Mandarin.

Incidentally, the Chinese are even more fucked than us. 1.1 births per women. And that's what they are admitting to.

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The Chinese will be fine. They have more people than they need at over a billion. Populations ebb and flow, people with low genetic pre-dispositions to childbirth don't have kids and removed themselves from the gene pool.

What matters is whether they are replaced in their own homeland. 500 million Chinese is still a formidable number as long as they maintain 90% population proportion in China.

No sane nation allows itself to be replaced by foreigners in its own territory. Which is precisely what the European nations (e.g., Swedes, Germans) are doing.

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Completely agree. I have just had a conversation with a white American who likes multiculturalism, views it as overwhelmingly positive. It is difficult to convey to people what living in an alien babel will be like for them.

Population replacement is preceded by population displacement, which tends to be violent. Absolute madness.

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No dumbass, how many shots have you fired?

The Jan6 thousands, Seal team 6 and 1,000 others have wasted their lives for no effect. Destroyed their families, abandoned their wives and children, to what result?

Are you shooting anyone for the murders?

No, I didn't think so.

My promise was to provide and protect my family only cowards commit moral suicide by doing nothing, or worse actual suicide by despair.

I fully understand why 99% aren't learning Mandarin, if you close your eyes shove fingers in your ears and pray then everything will be all right.

You just don't have the courage to face the truth and then the courage to pick up and take a huge risk to move to a better future.

When the brave around you are moved to the gulag (physical or mental) when you are not allowed to move further than 15 (walking) minutes from your appointed apartment, when you are not allowed to watch real events or real people, when your children are brainwashed to hate you and all you stand for, and you have no weapons with which to fight, then weep for the fact that you are too cowardly to live out your fantasies.

“We are in power. Nobody will deny it. By virtue of that power we shall remain in power…We have no words to waste on you. When you reach out your vaunted strong hands for our palaces and purpled ease, we will show you what strength is. In roar of shell and shrapnel and in whine of machine-guns will our answer be couched. We will grind you revolutionists down under our heel, and we shall walk upon your faces. The world is ours, we are its lords, and ours it shall remain. As for the host of labor, it has been in the dirt since history began, and I read history aright. And in the dirt it shall remain so long as I and mine and those that come after us have the power. There is the word. It is the king of words–Power. Not God, not Mammon, but Power. Pour it over your tongue till it tingles with it. Power.”

Mr. Wickson, The Iron Heel by Jack London (1908), chapter 4

Jack London describes the perception of “the great mass of the people [who] still persisted in the belief that they ruled the country by virtue of their ballots,” when “[i]n reality, the country was ruled by what were called political machines. At first the machine bosses charged the master capitalists extortionate tolls for legislation; but in a short time the master capitalists found it cheaper to own the political machines themselves and to hire the machine bosses.”

"If you want a vision of the [western] future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell

1984

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The point is simple, PJ. Some will stand and fight for their homeland. That is what patriotism is. You are welcome to China or Russia. I admire each in their own way, but they are not my homeland. My homeland is where my ancestors are buried. I believe in it, and I admire its history and the accomplishments of my people and those like us.

By all means do what you think is best for your family. I cannot fault anyone for that. But running away, as you seem to suggest, is guaranteeing defeat. And what happens when you run out of places to run to?

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America is populated by people who 'ran away from their homeland' but they are seen as heroes.Every single country in the world (with the possible exception of Kenya) is populated by people who 'ran away from their homeland'.

Emigration is an act of courage not cowardice.

My main point is that all the bravado and "patriot" BS is just hot air.

"To exercise power costs effort and demands courage. That is why so many fail to assert rights to which they are perfectly entitled -- because a right is a kind of power but they are too lazy or too cowardly to exercise it. The virtues which cloak these faults are called patience and forbearance."

- Friedrich Nietzsche

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The American is marked, in fact, by precisely the habits of mind and act that one would look for in a man insatiably ambitious and yet incurably fearful, to wit, the habits, on the one hand, of unpleasant assertiveness, of somewhat boisterous braggardism, of incessant pushing, and, on the other hand, of conformity, caution and subservience. He is forever talking of his rights as if he stood ready to defend them with his last drop of blood, and forever yielding them up at the first demand."

George Jean Nathan and H.L. Mencken, The American Credo, 1920

All I can say is you are welcome to be buried alongside your ancestors, my vision is much wider.

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Whereas you'll be buried alongside strangers. And stop using other people's quotes to answer questions. That is more insightful that your actual answers.

Except your rejection of patriotism, which is apparent in both your actions and words. We get it. Some people won't fight. Which was the point of the article. Some won't fire when the time comes.

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“Some men’s words I remember so well that I must often use them to express my thought. Yes, because I perceive that we have heard the same truth, but they have heard it better.”

--Ralph Waldo Emerson

On the evening of 7 April 1775, he made a famous statement:

"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." Samuel Johnson.

“Employ your time in improving yourself by other men’s writings, so that you shall come easily by that which others have laboured for.”

Socrates

“I know that my plainness of speech makes them hate me, and what is their hatred but a proof that I am speaking the truth?”

I fight for moral reasons not for profit of rich swine.

I have fought and will again but never for patriotism or Jingoism.

On the evening of 7 April 1775, Samuel Johnson made a famous statement:

"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."

You allow others to do your thinking for you.

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PJ has never needed an enemy to lose. He loses everytime he opens his mouth.

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Wow another keyboard hero!

Try actually responding with refutation or are the words too difficult for you?

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'Pretty much the same response as the Turner Diaries.

Both books were worth reading.

Both are overtaken by events and no longer pose a realistic scenario.

Farting against thunder is a waste of effort, walk away and find a better place to spend your efforts.

Any one under 40 who is not learning Mandarin and/or Russian is a fool. At 40 (1986) I could never have imagined the world of 2024, nonetheless, I left the 'West' and am extremely glad that I did.'

There is nothing here to refute. I mean there is your silly suggestion that China and Russia are planning some sort of world domination but I'm not sure how to refute hypothetical future events. Shall I refute your personal history? I don't know anything about it.

What I do know is that I have seen you shit on enough threads to wish that you would find somewhere else to do it. You say that you left the west 38 years ago, but you seem to spend most of your time attempting to demoralize and degrade your former homeland. GJ. If your new homeland likes you perhaps you should see if they have a blog that you can spend your time on?

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The points to refute are :

There is no action that can be taken to change the current tide of events in the US or UK or Germany et al. ie the people are farting against thunder and have no impact or power.

The economic and moral decline of all western countries is so advanced that the only way out is via the bottom. That Russia and China (plus many Asian countries) are far more socially and economically positive than the west. That the future development and production is going to be Russ-Asian centred and that the west will descend into 3rd world states in the next 10-20 years.

I did not suggest that Russia and China are 'planning some sort of world domination' but any but a fool can see that China has already achieved economic d'world' domination and that Russia has broken the back of US-UK financial domination. Never again will America be a 'product' power or be able to use the US dollar to dominate and destroy lesser countries as they have done 100 times in the past.

Are you so insecure (and ignorant) that any form of disagreement with conventional thought you consider 'shit'?

My former 'homeland' is already degraded and demoralised, my comments which are true reflections of conditions cannot make it worse, however they are made in the hope that some person may wipr the shit out of their eyes and realise just how brainwashed and ignorant of reality they really are.

Obviously this does not apply to those who think that 'patriotism' and intellectual discourse consists of standing in a crowd and shouting "USA USA USA USA" for hours.

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To PJ's point. My great-grandfather and great-grandmother fled eastern Europe in 1902. Their brothers, sisters, and parents that remained behind died in the Bolshevik revolution. Those who stayed to fight, died of starvation. Those who fled to America, survived.

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Perhaps misery loves company, lol. Maybe PJ wants more Westerners near him.

My own take is China has serious issues and is not the future. Russia is a second-rank country economically and has many internal problems. Both countries have below replacement birth levels. Neither have much immunity against Western liberalism either, although Russia has some.

I think we are all screwed. If Western nations had avoided mass immigration of truly alien people we will struggle to assimilate we could have toughed it out. So who knows what will happen. Should be interesting to watch.

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I know that this isn't a popular take but everything that I see about China tells me that 'communism' as in global domination a la Lenin is not what rules them. It is actually the same thing that has for ~2000 years--Mandarinism. Mao and his generation actually effected a communist revolution and the Chinese Deep State, the official mandarins got some new faces and didn't really change that much. The Chinese are extremely risk averse culturally and have never really mounted military expeditions very far from 'The Middle Kingdom' in all of history.

I disagree with you about the Russian economy. It appears 'second rank' because it is not nearly as heavily financialized as Western economies. But I don't think that our green paper is nearly as productive or fierce as we pretend. The Russians have massive natural resources, tremendous industry, and their know how is looking more substantial all the time. Unlike the Chinese they have a tremendous martial tradition. But I have seen nothing to convince me that they are aggressively expansionistic. A people fierce in defending their homeland, which Donetsk, Luhansk, and the other two are traditionally Russian, ethnically Russian, and have voted to be Russian, does not necessarily translate into an invading army. Though it could.

You are absolutely right that 'we' are all screwed. By which I mean the whole of the modern world. What we have built isn't sustainable, and I don't mean because of some running out of oil or carbon dioxide silliness. Modern society saps the spirit, saps the manhood and the talent. It turns men into fakegirls and girls into drones. It consumes insanely thoughtlessly. It is a beast that requires constant sacrifices. And like all religions that require repeated sacrifice it consumes its faithful. The Great Replacement is a ridiculous attempt to give the machine enough fuel to keep running, by leaders who think that the machine is worth sacrificing the people to.

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The last thing that I would want is more "westerners" except those few who are smart enough to recognise the reality of western US-UK-EU political and economic direction and courageous enough to do something about it.

China has no 'economic' problems. You are judging a 'Confucian' society by capitalist standards. You have no idea of what China wants as an economy nor of how it is achieving it. Why do you want 'replacement' birth levels? More importantly why would China want them?

Both countries are completely inoculated against western 'liberalism', they have seen the outcome and are horrified. There is no way that liberalism ( which in fact is the rich screwing the poor so that the rich may become richer) will gain ground in Russ-Asia.

You see they have all realised that the only sensible model of government is a "Benevolent Despot". As there are no longer monarchs (except Thailand and a couple of small states) a Social-Confucian society is by far the most progressive and beneficial.

I know that this is anathema to fools but for 12,500 of the recorded 13,000 years it has been the rule. Greece invented the word 'democracy' but never practised it for more than a very short time and then the Kings came back as it did not work.

The same has happened in all the western so-called democracies.

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Meanwhile back on earth…

If we take it we deserve it.

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Interesting. I would observe that the courage/fear to open fire, and the courage/fear *not* to open fire, are inextricably linked in every scenario.

The problem we face in evaluating these for any given scenario is that the choice between the one we applaud, and the one we scorn, is entirely ex post facto; or, to continue the Napoleonic theme, the fiction agreed-upon. ;)

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Had three riflemen fired into to the ground, those attacking would have fled like the rats they are. Had we stationed snipers about the busy areas and popped a few obvious coyotes, there would be no one coming to that border. Except soldiers.

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The book was hard to find back in the late 90s / early 2000s when I tracked it down and read it at the behest of Atlanta's own syndicated talk show host Neal Boortz. I might need to dig into storage and read it again.

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Would bet Elon Musk has seen When Worlds Collide.

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He has seen Johannesburg. An education in its own right.

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What are you talking about, have you seen Johannesburg?

How many years did you live there?

How many African languages can you speak?

Africa is indeed an education. one that many people would benefit from.

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I have. What about you?

I don't speak any African languages. What difference does that make?

Are you going to tackle the point? He has seen what steep decline looks like given his origins. He will have some insights into why that happened in his homeland. Make sense?

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Nonsense, Elon went to Canada in 1989, before the ANC takeover and whilst SA was still under 'White' rule. There was no decline other than normal central city impoverishment.

I lived 40+ years in Jo'burg and other southern african cities and worked in 6 African countries owning companies in 3 of them. The decline is no greater than that of many US cities and having lived in London for 6 years is no worse than that city.

The point that it makes, is that African culture is different to western culture. To judge 'black' cities and towns by 'white' social norms is as stupid as judging Chinese or Indian societies by American norms.

I vastly prefer the Arab culture to the US, but 99% of westerners only believe the BS that is pushed at them by propagandists in UK/US, a totally false picture.

So no, having lived in 8 countries and worked in a further 7, I can assure you that the UK (country of my birth) and US are way down on the list of countries in which any one but a craven coward would want to reside. They are truly 'police states'.

“We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission.”

Ayn Rand

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Musk has publicly challenged the SA authorities in recent times about the decline. He is clearly concerned about it

And frankly if you prefer Arab culture to the Anglosphere countries I can only imagine the kind of backward broken world you would create given the chance. The anti-patriotism makes a lot more sense now, PJ.

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Elon Musk has challenged every government. Of course he is concerned but no where near as concerned as he is about US and Canada.

How many Arabs do you know? How many years have you lived and worked in the Middle east?

As I said your knowledge comes from propaganda and is ignorance of the truth. Ex-pats try as hard as they can to stay in the foreign countries because they have actual experience and knowledge.

Only a total moron would call Kuwait or Dubai or Saudi broken-backward countries.

I am glad to be, like Mark Twain and many great men, anti-patriotic.

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The premise is that the armed forces only obey orders. They don't improvise or take decisions, ever.

If they don't shoot, if they fail to defend the border, it's because there is an active order to stand down.

The people who give such orders are more culpable than any trespasser or invader, or any number of them.

The trespassers are a bullet. The people who shot the bullet are the heads of state and of government of each country. They are shooting immigrants-bullets against the deer in headlights who are the citizens.

And maybe the politicians in charge are receiving orders from supranational organizations, including banks. Perhaps the orders are simply by omission: "you know what to do."

Another page in the book of democide, which many refuse to believe is real.

The premise describes the problem. The armed forces should have intervened civil governments long ago. Perhaps in the banking crisis of 2007/08. End globalism then, by force.

I guess the globalists pay better than the people.

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Had we opened fire the minute that fucking puke they propped up in pdt’s chair reversed all his border policies, there wouldn’t be 20 million little cuntsrunning around needing to be rounded up and shot/ imprisoned/ catapulted back to the shitholes they created for themselves. Now we, as citizens, will have todo what the government refuses to, at risk of being shot by our own government. Great odds.

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If 100 years ago the US had not invaded Mexican territory and annexed it as its own, perhaps these problems would not exist.

A potential solution to this problem would be the partial abolition of the 13th amendment, in order to enslave immigrants. Perhaps the perspective of becoming a slave would be a good deterrent.

The huge economic cost of having slaves may also stimulate the people in power to change policy. They would say, "We cannot have more slaves, prices are going down and profit margins are being destroyed, so we have to control the border to control prices and have better profit margins. It's cheaper to have many free consumers than many enslaved producers."

And enslaving trespassers may cause citizens to take their rights and obligations more seriously.

But of course, restoring slavery highly immoral, unlike manipulating the currency or bombing other countries or a Marxist education system or having an evil Intellectual Property System that destroys health, culture, law, families and property, all of which are only moderately immoral.

The sarcasm... is it being perceived?

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Hidden in your sarcasm may be a kernel of truth applicable to our modern system. To wit, the best way to end uncontrolled immigration lies in figuring out a way to make that more profitable than all the alternatives. That seems to be the way that most "problems" are resolved these days--the selected solution is always the one that creates the most profit-making opportunity for the well-connected.

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Immigration is not uncontrolled. It is legally difficult for people to legally migrate to the US, or to any of its allies. That's one reason why illegal immigration exist. But there are other reasons why it is a problem.

The guys in charge get two lines of business: they have profits from establishing and sustaining difficulties to migrate, and they have profits from the chaos of illegal immigration.

These people are very smart.

The solution is total privatization of all land. But most would hate that solution if they were allowed to hear it.

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Everything but the stealing Mexico part.

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I just looked for this on Amazon. Sure enough... NO hard copies. Now THAT is banning a book...

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Terrific piece. I will share.

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Thanks.

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Thought provoking.

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