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It should be kept in mind that the winter of 1978-79 was unusually cold in some parts of the Northern hemisphere. So there might be a bad baseline problem, too.

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The start point of 78-79 was chosen because it is the beginning of the satellite coverage of troposphere temps.

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Worth noting. Climate crazies like to refer to "pre-industrial" levels of CO2. The date happens to be 1850, which, oddly, was the end of the Little Ice Age, the coldest (and long) spell for some thousands of years in the Holocene.

Odd, would it not be, were temperatures NOT to rise given that. And - given that - a rise of some 1.4° C is utterly unremarkable, and indeed, welcome. The benefits of a warmer planet, and the greening effect of more CO2 are what we need. Note also that CO2 levels are pretty much as low as they have EVER been.

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There have been ups and down throughout the Holocene, and I would like to find some good baseline comparison of them and recent times. The Little Ice Age ran from around 1300 into the nineteenth century, maybe about 1850 as you say. Before that was the Medieval Warm Period, during which Greenland got its name. Before that was a cold period during during late Roman antiquity, and before that another warm period in Classical times. I'm not sure how those previous warm periods compared to current temperatures though.

I understand that CO2 has risen radically in a short time, from about 270 or 290 or something in 1960, to about 420 or so parts per million today. That's a lot, and most of it is probably indeed anthropogenic from the burning of fossil fuels. But that baseline of just a few hundred is still very low in earth history, and I think has only been the case during the Pliocene and Pleistocene, say about the last six million years. The green plants that we ultimately depend on, depend on CO2, so they should be happy with the rise.

How important CO2 is as a greenhouse gas seems questionable. As long as it doesn't get up to a thousand or so, where we humans suffer measurable cognitive impairment, we should be fine. If it does, then people who wore masks during the last few years should at least be adapted to it.

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CO2 at geologically low levels. Wish we could post images here, as I have two graphs which show the complete lack of correlation between CO2 & temperature, long AND short term. It's been warmer with less CO2, cooler with more.

Remember - Vikings once farmed more of Greenland than we now can. Ergo warmer

Hannibal got elephants over the Alps. Romans grew red grapes in Northern England.

Add that, the obliquity is moving to greater cooling, and the AMO flipping to a cooling phase. Wrap up warm! Northern hemisphere winters have been bitter for a few years, and snow coverage increasing

Nor is there any formal proof of what is a very straightforward hypothesis "CO2 levels control temperature". Anywhere - as per Feynman, this is an erroneous hypothesis.

And we work fine at 1000ppm. Submariners can handle up to 10,000ppm for short periods. Most indoor settings are around 1000ppm

https://www.co2meter.com/en-uk/blogs/news/carbon-dioxide-indoor-levels-chart

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Thanks for the link! That's a great, neutral reference to support the baseline we're discussing.

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All those climate models! And such encoded naming. We should create a model of models and give the grouping an appropriate name: WHA-DA-F*K-DOI-NO

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Mr. BRIGGS, may GOD ALMIGHTY be praised for creating HIS SERVANT picking up such reasonable observations about HIS CREATION.

As an aside - I wish GRETA, GORE, GATES & Co. would dig up REAL EVIDENCE about the ratio of men/women perishing because of LOW TEMPERATURES in comparison of "HIGH" TEMPERATURES ... truly wonder where GRETA, GORE, GATES & Co. are planing their next holidays ... taking their gospel at face value surely it must ANTARCTICA ... but then again - of course it is "off limits" based on "treaties" to protect the "environment", how foolish of me to assume THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN is acting based on its gospel of LIES!

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Climate Crisis isn't a scientific theory, it's a political one. So many of the present day Scientific Theories backed by Scientific Consensuses are backed by political and financial motives as the 60+% Replication Crisis reflects.

Why did the field of genetics, so hot in the msm to write on in the 2000's and early 2010's suddenly go quiet? Ahhh, don't ask questions. Evolution is true and race is a construct because that's what the teachers said in the 80's and lord knows our education and cultural institutions were not multiple layers of bs and lies.

Now excuse me as I purchase land covered in permafrost since in 3 years it'll be a boreal rainforest. I'm gonna get rich on carbon credits.

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Jokes aside, too much of the Scientific field has, by becoming the new State Religious Priesthood, devolved into seers reading pig entrails and bone dice...but in white cotton labcoats instead of white lace or animal skins.

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Our governance has been taken over by the professional class: lawyers, scientists & doctors, regulators, national security & intelligence operatives, and various other "experts."

"The function of an expert is not to be right more than others, it's to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons."

Unk.

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As anyone with any familiarity with hysterical women will know, they love to be told to calm down and then shown data that invalidates the cause of their hysteria. Works every time.

On another note, why do the graphs take the 1991-2020 average as the baseline when the data being used goes back to the 70s?

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For everyone looking for A door to THE BIG PICTURE .... please pay special attention to the last two verses:

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Rev 17

GOD ALMIGHTY IS TRUTHFUL (FULL ENCRYPTION INCLUDED), ALWAYS! REVEALING AS MUCH AS IT IS NEEDED/PERMITTED TO HIS FAITHFUL CHILDREN!

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For all that want to look behind the scenes ... here we go:

https://youtu.be/4oVpt_I9iQQ?si=NxzUOzzS1Z6JYjCR

"Eyes wide shut" - hidden in plain sight!

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God Bless Roy Spencer, an oasis of sanity in the ocean of climate madness!

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Great article! Now we can resume extracting our abundant natural energy resources and bring the cost of energy down, and this the standard of living up, for billions around the world.

I would be interested in your views on the suitability of using temperature, and in particular “global average temperature” (whatever that could possibly mean) as a proxy for atmospheric and oceanic thermal energy. It seems to me that the average temperature is not independent of the number of measurements (what’s the average temperature in my kitchen if I boil water in the kettle? (212 + 70)/2 = 136? It doesn’t feel that hot...). Temperature doesn’t seem to be the only element in measuring thermal energy.

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Even CONSIDERING to "manage" or even put "climate" in a box - called THEORY - is nothing but HUBRIS as your kitchen example clearly alludes to.

REALITY is beyond COMPLEX that anything that goes beyond "reasonable regional" (for men's common sense) consideration cannot be labelled ANYTHING BUT MADNESS created by THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN!

Once I came across a very valuable insight, that "knowledge" is like an island as with every increase of knowledge/ surface/circumference (of the island) the uncovered/visible unknown becomes greater. So, no matter how much "knowledge" (latter being a separate topic of consideration) is being accumulated about THE SYSTEM - GOD ALMIGHTY'S CREATION - the more IGNORANCE (what we ignore not to know) has to be admitted.

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Reality must necessarily be infinitely complex. There are complexities in things like (just off the top of my head) the human immune system and the climate that I believe scientific knowledge is nowhere near appreciating. I look with grave suspicion upon efforts that presume to meddle with them. The contemplation of our primitive understanding of the natural world, and our circumscribed and limited intellects, should rightly lead to deep humility.

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' I look with grave suspicion upon efforts that presume to meddle with them.'

I agree completely. The refusal to acknowledge complex systems is at the base of any number of modern problems.

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" The refusal to acknowledge complex systems is at the base of any number of modern problems." - agreed, but not without adding that ANY collective/institutional "solution" is a deflection born out of the same HUBRIS OF MAN'S MIND that brought about the problems your comment is referring to. EVERYONE is INDIVIDUALLY RESPONSIBLE IN THE TINIEST THOUGHT, WORD AND DEED!

SMALL IS THE GATE AND NARROW IS THE PATH THAT LEADETH TO LIFE, AND FEW WILL FIND IT!

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On that subject, may I recommend the writings and many talks by Brit philosopher, Ian McGilchrist, who believes that the increasing domination of the left hemisphere of the brain in the Western world is a big and dangerous problem.

Start with "The Master and his Emissary", an initial dive into this; I am currently some way into his recent two volume magnum opus "The Matter With Things"; taxing but fruitful.

https://www.youtube.com/@DrIainMcGilchrist

and

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=iain+mcgilchrist

Take your time. You'll need to. I am I think in agreement with his hypothesis; two aspects we are witnessing in front of us are "scientism" and the rise of experts & technocracy. An exaggeration of materialism which believes reason and human intelligence can solve anything.

Guess that's why we still haven't clue about the why, what and how of consciousness, or how something came from nothing. Both crucial to us, and beyond reason.

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ABSOLUTELY AGREE on Ian - he is equally a blessing in his own right like the writer of this SS or ANYBODY ELSE paying attention to REALITY and making it known in his own way.

Men and women all over the world have been led down THE DARK ALLEY OF HUBRIS in its fallacious gospel of MATERIALISM supercharged by technology and thereby papering over ALL THE MISSTEPS along the way.

THE FIAT CURRENCY PONZI SCHEME being the DRUG/CULT having induced a trance like state of men's mind aiming for bigger/faster/higher loosing itself on its way!

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A great summary of THE BIBLE ... the sin is neither the observation nor the investigation nor even the apparent conclusion, but elevating anything of the aforementioned to any level of gospel to act upon... technology is the biggest cover up of our sinful behaviour being brought to light all over the world!

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According to the first plot, 1.1 degrees vs. 0.8 degrees actual.

If that trend holds, then we get to push all the dire predictions back by a factor of 1.4. Nice, but not disproof of the looming problem. Just says that the lukewarmers have a point: we have more time than was advertised.

We have time for a stately switchover from coal to nuclear in the developed world.

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You mean we aren’t going to die in the flood when polar ice all melts and oceans rise? OMG! Thank you! (Now what can I go on and stress about that isn’t real....🤔 Well, there was the we’re all gonna freeze to death ice age that made the cover of Newsweek in the late seventies....)

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So far (22%), Javier Vinos' latest, "Solving the Climate Puzzle: The Sun's Surprising Role" does a good job pointing out the limitations of the Enhanced Greenhouse Effect theory. Future chapters describe his alternate theory.

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FYI: 75 years ago last Friday the Great Blizzard of 1949 raged for 48 days in Wyoming burying cars, trains, etc.

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not worried

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Please see Dr. Spencer's site for the latest https://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

It should be noted that starting last summer the global temperature spiked far above the running average. This is believed to be due to the huge volume of water vapor ejected into the atmosphere by the Hunga Tunga undersea eruption in January 2022.

From Electroverse 8/03/2023: "Dr. Peter Kolb, PhD Forest Ecologist Adjunct Professor, links the effects of the Hunga eruption, “the highest in the atmosphere of any volcano in history,” to North America’s long cold winter just gone.

“[The eruption] blew something like a trillion tons of water into the upper atmosphere … increasing the water vapor in the Stratosphere by 10%. We talk about greenhouse gases increasing by one or two one-hundredths of a percent causing global climate change, and here we had a volcano that increased the water content of the stratosphere by 10%.” This figure was later increased to 30% by the European Space Agency.

The Greenhouse Effect is real and the most important greenhouse gas is water vapor. This HUGE kick of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere moved the temperature up to 0.9C above the running average in September through November of 2023. (Notice the lag time of ~1.5 years. I don't think we fully understand why that should be.) While it is now falling as the water vapor content at high altitude returns to normal, the point is that the greenhouse gas increase needed to meaningfully increase the lower atmosphere temperature is likely much greater than effects from anthropogenic activities.

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