Conan was right. The best part, at least for now, of the SCOTUS ruling overturning the Chevron test is Experts squealing like body positivisits told they are fat. Larry Tribe’s reactions have been priceless. For instance: “The ones I feel sorry for are my administrative law colleagues who built their courses and careers around the intricacies of Chevron deference.”
“Congress doesn’t have the time or expertise to fill in the details for thousands of regulations, and it’s hard to anticipate the twists and turns of the future and exactly what [lawmakers] need to spell out specifically”.
As we say in my little neck of the economy, that’s a feature, not a bug.
It boggles the mind that anyone would think that thousands of regulations is a good thing.
Chevron created a huge network of regulatory capture to be undone. That will still fall to the courts, so Congress better lace up their sprinting shoes to catch up once it starts.
Imagine expecting Congress to write specific laws! The horror! They may have to actually read the laws they vote on! How will they insider trade successfully if they have to waste their time reading?!!!
The operative but incorrect “thought” process in much of the public's mind here seems to be:
EXPERT IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA --> SMART PERSON --> EXPERT AT EVERYTHING
Laurence Tribe is a reliable shill for whatever the Powers-That-Be have determined will be the "official" narrative. Whenever I see his name attached to something, I know that will be the limit of its usefulness..
For quite a few years the Supremes have been on a crusade to restore the three branches to their proper jobs. Congress gradually abandoned ALL of its authority to the courts and agencies, and then Congress started making internal rules to prevent itself from even changing budgets. The court is tired of lifting the whole load and wants Congress to pick up its end of the stick.
Suppose Congress passes a law to prohibit all bad things and mandate all good things. They set up an independent (read "unaccountable") bureaucracy to define "good" and "bad", determine penalties for non-compliance, and adjudicate alleged infractions.
SCOTUS Under Chevron: "Sounds reasonable."
Now: "What?! That's not how the rule of law in a liberal democratic republic works!"
Progressives are understandably upset because replacing the Constitutional order with rule by "disinterested experts" has been their #1 objective for ~125 years.
Anything less than infinite license to regulate whatever the fuck they want, by bureaucrats with unrelated college degrees, according to esoteric reddit-tier interpretations of legislative language, is literally killing Our Democracy! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
We often hear calls for “common sense” changes to regulations on one thing or another, usually from the Left, because (let’s face it) they are the most egregious practitioners of torturing the letter of the law and the justice system beyond all reason. Instead of changing laws they don’t like, they just ignore them, selectively decline to prosecute, or stretch the letter of it beyond its obvious intent.
Since everyone knows of this tendency, supporters of current law never yield to “common sense” restrictions on anything. As an example, pro-2nd Amendment voters and pro-abortion advocates, generally on opposite sides of the political spectrum, both express outrage and dig in their heels whenever someone suggests some “common sense” restrictions on the governing regulations, because they all know that once “the camel gets his nose inside the tent,” the sky will be the limit. They feel that if they give an inch, their opponents will take a mile.
So, in this vein, the court has reeled in the ability of regulatory agencies to make “common sense” changes to laws duly passed by Congress. And the Left is outraged for the reason outlined above.
Briggs ==> If one uses the real definition of an expert, "a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area", then we can be well served by field experts advising us on topics within their area of expertise.
The crazed moaning about "A THREAT TO SCIENTIFIC EXPERTISE" really amounts to the odd belief that all the "REAL EXPERTS" work inside of federal agencies -- that there are no experts, certainly no more-knowledgeable experts, outside those agencies.
We have sufficient evidence to know what happens to experts inside those agencies that don't go along with "the agenda" insisted upon by their un-elected bureaucrat bosses who actually control these agencies.
Smoke and mirrors. If anyone thinks this will stop our luciferian overlords' war on humanity, best to think again. You can't win in court. They will drag you through so much lawfare - you'll be broke before you leave to the courthouse.
They are taking control of every natural resource, land, food, water and abundant energy. You get nothing while they get everything. Nothing is going to stop them short of a literal miracle - certainly not this bone they threw us from SCOTUS.
The only thing that ever stops totalitarians is the application to them of more violence than they can apply to us. SCOTUS just moved downfield the point at which this becomes reality.
There’s far too few of us to make a dent. We’re scattered, isolated and already identified. They’ll take out any real resistance bit by bit. Mark my words.
Imo too many people imagining a CW2 imagine a force-on-force scenario as in CW1. Never happen what is far more likely are unorganized, uncoordinated lethal attacks in a growing number of places until the establishment realizes it no longer can function. DementiaJoe always yaks in this context about F15s, etc., missing the fundamental that planes need pilots & ground crews. If a balloon goes up, there will be fewer and fewer of those people every day.
Wild conjecture: the economy is really worse than planned and the Managers see a major problem ahead. They may really lose the military hegemony if the economy does not improve soon. So, they decided to remove the limiters they put in place in the past. Now, there are conditions for economic growth on the side of the industry. Maybe they have decided to reindustrialize because they **know** there is going to be a war in China and India, and the electronics production will suffer. So... yeah... the agenda 2030 may be over with this. They have conceded (partial) defeat.
What could potentially confirm this conjecture? Relaxing or removing intellectual property. That is also a huge limiter. In fact, China and other grew because they ignored the limiter. This is no joke. If America stops hitting herself in the face, maybe the citizens see better economic times soon. Without freedom, but it's better to be a rich slave than a poor slave.
“Congress doesn’t have the time or expertise to fill in the details for thousands of regulations, and it’s hard to anticipate the twists and turns of the future and exactly what [lawmakers] need to spell out specifically”.
As we say in my little neck of the economy, that’s a feature, not a bug.
It boggles the mind that anyone would think that thousands of regulations is a good thing.
Chevron created a huge network of regulatory capture to be undone. That will still fall to the courts, so Congress better lace up their sprinting shoes to catch up once it starts.
Yeah. Congress gonna come to the rescue, right?
LOLZ
Rescue?! I expect abject failure, just like always.
Lawsuits are going to force their hand.
That's also part of the popcorn festival. Congress may believe that they can save the regulatory capture scheme, but room temp IQs won't cut it.
Believe that if you want. I don't,
Subsidiarity ought to make its return. It won't, but it ought to.
"Lawyers hardest hit" is one of the finest sub-headlines in all of human existence.
Imagine expecting Congress to write specific laws! The horror! They may have to actually read the laws they vote on! How will they insider trade successfully if they have to waste their time reading?!!!
The operative but incorrect “thought” process in much of the public's mind here seems to be:
EXPERT IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA --> SMART PERSON --> EXPERT AT EVERYTHING
Laurence Tribe is a reliable shill for whatever the Powers-That-Be have determined will be the "official" narrative. Whenever I see his name attached to something, I know that will be the limit of its usefulness..
For quite a few years the Supremes have been on a crusade to restore the three branches to their proper jobs. Congress gradually abandoned ALL of its authority to the courts and agencies, and then Congress started making internal rules to prevent itself from even changing budgets. The court is tired of lifting the whole load and wants Congress to pick up its end of the stick.
They have one job: build a budget.
And they are too addicted to hearings to do it.
No manager wants to stick their neck out by exercising their own judgement. That's how you end up in hot water.
The question of fishermen being driven bankrupt by the cost of arbitrary regulation is "small fish?" Ha ha.
Talk about a well-justified Schadenfreude over the existential angst faced by the folks at Scientific American.
Beautiful. A bad day for "experts" is a good day for humans.
Good to remember this truism:
To become an “expert,” one learns more and more about less and less, until one knows everything about nothing.
Suppose Congress passes a law to prohibit all bad things and mandate all good things. They set up an independent (read "unaccountable") bureaucracy to define "good" and "bad", determine penalties for non-compliance, and adjudicate alleged infractions.
SCOTUS Under Chevron: "Sounds reasonable."
Now: "What?! That's not how the rule of law in a liberal democratic republic works!"
Progressives are understandably upset because replacing the Constitutional order with rule by "disinterested experts" has been their #1 objective for ~125 years.
Who watches the disinterested experts?
Themselves, obviously. Don't you trust the experts? And who are you to question them?
Anything less than infinite license to regulate whatever the fuck they want, by bureaucrats with unrelated college degrees, according to esoteric reddit-tier interpretations of legislative language, is literally killing Our Democracy! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
We often hear calls for “common sense” changes to regulations on one thing or another, usually from the Left, because (let’s face it) they are the most egregious practitioners of torturing the letter of the law and the justice system beyond all reason. Instead of changing laws they don’t like, they just ignore them, selectively decline to prosecute, or stretch the letter of it beyond its obvious intent.
Since everyone knows of this tendency, supporters of current law never yield to “common sense” restrictions on anything. As an example, pro-2nd Amendment voters and pro-abortion advocates, generally on opposite sides of the political spectrum, both express outrage and dig in their heels whenever someone suggests some “common sense” restrictions on the governing regulations, because they all know that once “the camel gets his nose inside the tent,” the sky will be the limit. They feel that if they give an inch, their opponents will take a mile.
So, in this vein, the court has reeled in the ability of regulatory agencies to make “common sense” changes to laws duly passed by Congress. And the Left is outraged for the reason outlined above.
Briggs ==> If one uses the real definition of an expert, "a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area", then we can be well served by field experts advising us on topics within their area of expertise.
The crazed moaning about "A THREAT TO SCIENTIFIC EXPERTISE" really amounts to the odd belief that all the "REAL EXPERTS" work inside of federal agencies -- that there are no experts, certainly no more-knowledgeable experts, outside those agencies.
We have sufficient evidence to know what happens to experts inside those agencies that don't go along with "the agenda" insisted upon by their un-elected bureaucrat bosses who actually control these agencies.
That's why Chevron had to die.
Smoke and mirrors. If anyone thinks this will stop our luciferian overlords' war on humanity, best to think again. You can't win in court. They will drag you through so much lawfare - you'll be broke before you leave to the courthouse.
They are taking control of every natural resource, land, food, water and abundant energy. You get nothing while they get everything. Nothing is going to stop them short of a literal miracle - certainly not this bone they threw us from SCOTUS.
The only thing that ever stops totalitarians is the application to them of more violence than they can apply to us. SCOTUS just moved downfield the point at which this becomes reality.
There’s far too few of us to make a dent. We’re scattered, isolated and already identified. They’ll take out any real resistance bit by bit. Mark my words.
Imo too many people imagining a CW2 imagine a force-on-force scenario as in CW1. Never happen what is far more likely are unorganized, uncoordinated lethal attacks in a growing number of places until the establishment realizes it no longer can function. DementiaJoe always yaks in this context about F15s, etc., missing the fundamental that planes need pilots & ground crews. If a balloon goes up, there will be fewer and fewer of those people every day.
Do not comply. Never surrender
You can be sure those will be stifled entirely. Dissidents are being tracked and identified right now, in an ongoing surveillance state.
Wild conjecture: the economy is really worse than planned and the Managers see a major problem ahead. They may really lose the military hegemony if the economy does not improve soon. So, they decided to remove the limiters they put in place in the past. Now, there are conditions for economic growth on the side of the industry. Maybe they have decided to reindustrialize because they **know** there is going to be a war in China and India, and the electronics production will suffer. So... yeah... the agenda 2030 may be over with this. They have conceded (partial) defeat.
What could potentially confirm this conjecture? Relaxing or removing intellectual property. That is also a huge limiter. In fact, China and other grew because they ignored the limiter. This is no joke. If America stops hitting herself in the face, maybe the citizens see better economic times soon. Without freedom, but it's better to be a rich slave than a poor slave.
Maybe we don’t need bureaucrats and law-makers regulating us to death. God only gave Moses 10 commandments and hardly anyone obeys even those.
Dr. Briggs, I propose we address them as Akshualling Experts.