This is truly up for debate by all sincere Catholics. And I am referring to the last 8 words.
“ By uncritically embracing climate catastrophism, Pope Francis, perhaps unwittingly and most certainly unwillingly, rejects the God he clearly tries to serve wholeheartedly”
Pope Francis would make this mistake were he to assume with the progressives that there is no such thing as a "complex" physical system, that is, a physical system that exhibits one ore more "emergent properties," each of which is a property of the whole system and not or the separate parts of this system. Philosopher's of the "enlightenment" made this mistake. Perhaps Pope Francis has picked up this erroneous belief from them.
Terry, I was only referring to this “ the God he clearly tries to serve wholeheartedly” in Catholic circles that is open to question. His pronouncements are often very anti-Catholic.
The Pope is on point with his view that 'the world' is collapsing except that he misinterprets the causes. The 'climate crisis' is just one of the 'birth pangs' that preceeds the end of this age.
The town council in the town in which I live in Northern California believes with Pope Francis that there is no such thing as a "complex" physical system and is unwilling to entertain the possibility that this belief is incorrect.
I read the whole thing. Could be reformulated into a Dubia. That Francis would ignore.
Very cool connection with Job's demonstration that the theological model provided by his contemporaries fails to fit his data, and so the model must be revised in conversation with God.
Climate Change is the Religion of the Left!! They Idolize everything in nature except the creator! As for the Pope and the Catholic Church, what is that? I don't worship a man who sits in a palace dripping in gold. I worship a man who suffered, died and was buried and rose on the third day. That man is Jesus Christ. The Messiah, The Lord of Lord, The Prince of Peace!
Pope Francis is mistaking the example of a "complex" physical system that is Earth's climate system for a "non-complex" physical system in he construction of a model of this system, where a "complex" physical system exhibits one or more "emergent properties," each of which is a property of the whole system and not of the separate parts o this system whereas a "non-complex" physical system exhibits no such properties. The existence of GOD is consistent with the belief that Earth's Climate system is a "complex" physical system but not with the belief that Earth's Climate system is a "non-complex" physical system Science IS The Answer provided that this mistake is not made in the construction of a model of this system. Entropy Minimax Pattern Discovery, as described the the late theoretical physicist Ronald Arilie Christensen buildes a model of a "complex phsyical system without making any mistakes. This method solves the ancient, previously unsolved Problem of Induction, where the problem is of how, in a logically permissible way, to select the set of inferences that will be made by a model of a "complex" physical system from a larger set of possibilities. Use of the Bayesian method for constuction of a model of a physical system would lead a person to the erroneous conclusion that there is no God. Your conclusion that Science Is Not The Answer is consistent with the belief that it was reached by the Bayesian method
Docdially,
Terry Oldberg
Engineer/Scientist/Publlic Policy Researcher
Writer of the substack entitled "Building a Model of A Physical System Without Making Any Mistakes"
This is truly up for debate by all sincere Catholics. And I am referring to the last 8 words.
“ By uncritically embracing climate catastrophism, Pope Francis, perhaps unwittingly and most certainly unwillingly, rejects the God he clearly tries to serve wholeheartedly”
Dear Billy G:
Pope Francis would make this mistake were he to assume with the progressives that there is no such thing as a "complex" physical system, that is, a physical system that exhibits one ore more "emergent properties," each of which is a property of the whole system and not or the separate parts of this system. Philosopher's of the "enlightenment" made this mistake. Perhaps Pope Francis has picked up this erroneous belief from them.
Cordially,
Terry Oldberg
Engineer/Scientist/Public Policy Researcher
Los Aaltoss Hills, California
650-518-6636 (mobile)
terry_oldberg@yahoo.com(email)
Terry, I was only referring to this “ the God he clearly tries to serve wholeheartedly” in Catholic circles that is open to question. His pronouncements are often very anti-Catholic.
Do you pay attention to what he says? What he does?
How many heretical acts/ststements does it take to be a heretic? I stand by what I wrote. A heretic by name rejects God. C’mon….
The Pope is on point with his view that 'the world' is collapsing except that he misinterprets the causes. The 'climate crisis' is just one of the 'birth pangs' that preceeds the end of this age.
The town council in the town in which I live in Northern California believes with Pope Francis that there is no such thing as a "complex" physical system and is unwilling to entertain the possibility that this belief is incorrect.
I read the whole thing. Could be reformulated into a Dubia. That Francis would ignore.
Very cool connection with Job's demonstration that the theological model provided by his contemporaries fails to fit his data, and so the model must be revised in conversation with God.
Climate Change is the Religion of the Left!! They Idolize everything in nature except the creator! As for the Pope and the Catholic Church, what is that? I don't worship a man who sits in a palace dripping in gold. I worship a man who suffered, died and was buried and rose on the third day. That man is Jesus Christ. The Messiah, The Lord of Lord, The Prince of Peace!
Dear Matt Briggs:
Pope Francis is mistaking the example of a "complex" physical system that is Earth's climate system for a "non-complex" physical system in he construction of a model of this system, where a "complex" physical system exhibits one or more "emergent properties," each of which is a property of the whole system and not of the separate parts o this system whereas a "non-complex" physical system exhibits no such properties. The existence of GOD is consistent with the belief that Earth's Climate system is a "complex" physical system but not with the belief that Earth's Climate system is a "non-complex" physical system Science IS The Answer provided that this mistake is not made in the construction of a model of this system. Entropy Minimax Pattern Discovery, as described the the late theoretical physicist Ronald Arilie Christensen buildes a model of a "complex phsyical system without making any mistakes. This method solves the ancient, previously unsolved Problem of Induction, where the problem is of how, in a logically permissible way, to select the set of inferences that will be made by a model of a "complex" physical system from a larger set of possibilities. Use of the Bayesian method for constuction of a model of a physical system would lead a person to the erroneous conclusion that there is no God. Your conclusion that Science Is Not The Answer is consistent with the belief that it was reached by the Bayesian method
Docdially,
Terry Oldberg
Engineer/Scientist/Publlic Policy Researcher
Writer of the substack entitled "Building a Model of A Physical System Without Making Any Mistakes"
Los Altos Hills, California
650-518-6636(mobile)
terry_oldberg@yahoo.com (email)
Any chace to get a link to the essay eventually in a reflowable format for our pocket moloch devices? PDF is hard to manage on small screens.
I think it's on HTML at the site link, too.