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What you described is some self inflicted suffering that is not a disease. In medicine, a disease is something that a physician diagnoses based on some set of agreed upon parameters (symptoms, numbers, etc) in some school of medicine for the purpose of medical treatment. A random drunk in pain does not “have” any “diseases” until he encounters a medical practitioner who transforms a drunk into a patient by the actions of assessment and diagnosing.

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We're getting somewhere here. Excellent.

You and I agree that medical diagnoses are evil communist bullshit from hell, like public schooling and the income tax, all meant to confuse reason and make as many people as possible out of touch with virtue.

But you claim that diagnosis equals disease. I say they don't. A disease is real, a diagnosis is mere propaganda, or a hex, if you will.

The real reason why you confuse diagnosis and disease is one of these two: a) you are genuinely confused about the difference of the two terms, or b) you are taking too far a rhetorical technique to attract attention to your argument.

If a, I beg you consider the possibility that a disease is different from the errors of the doctors.

If b, you have to hone your rhetorical skills, and learn when to stop, lest you commit the fallacy of proving too much.

And let me repeat, sadly we see a lot of people living under the delusion that they have a disease, when they don't. They become enamored of their condition. That's an error they are making, and they may actually receive a lot of damage if they continue the farce. But we also have to realize that this type of malingerers are not autonomous, but marionettes in the hands of very evil people who hate normal human life. It is near impossible to help these people rebel against the fantasy that enslaves them by telling them that diseases and diagnoses are not real. This talk of the non-reality of disease is only useful with people with a tendency to rationalism, everyone else are impervious to it. And the people who want to be slaves are not rationalists, and the masters aren't either. They're thinking exists in a very far away province from rationalism.

When Thomas Szasz argued that people should bite the hand that feeds them when that hand is also poisoning them, he was talking about the difficulties in explaining reality to people who hate reality. I doubt that he had any rational hope in convincing any slave or master to stop their immoral actions. Rather, his rational hope was to make clear to other rationalists that it is best to be warned that these fantasies are harmful and persistent, and the strategy to defend oneself from these people is complex and requires some working knowledge of the reality of human moral slavery, how it starts and how it develops over time. But many rationalists are simply to naive and prefer to imagine that there is no such thing as evil. So they disregard the wise observations and advice of a true expert, and they will also end up taking pills, and repenting from doing that.

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