Our tragically ruined societies are the direct result of elites rejecting Truth incarnate. "Scientific" or psychological arguments used to explain their state of madness are exercises in sophistry.
There is only one question: God or Mammon? How you answer that leads you to either Christ or Chaos.
Perhaps the most powerful drive in human nature is tribalism. Once the prominent ideology is stable, everyone can figure out what they mean by "God" and "Mammon"... As usual, the two are inexplicably mixed. :)
Come on, you’re smarter (I Hope) than this unintentional (I Hope) blaspheming!
First, a cornerstone of liberalism is that somehow Love, Absolute Truth, And Natural Law (Reality) as well as The Church are just somehow subordinated to liberal “absolutes” of race and politics; this being “discovered” after their “new atheism” necessarily backslid into metastacized non-Christ-referencing protestantism.
politics, race, (especially) tribalism, or whatever other subhuman nonsense you have been convinced by 500 years of “‘licensed’ slavery to “give you ‘power’” are arbitrary things made in the 19th and 20th century by your freemason masters once protestant lies became too obvious to the adherents.
Literally nothing you hold as a standard is even real, let alone True, moderns are an artificial simulacrum of global satanist despotism.
Second, let’s define some terms:
God Is. God Is Father Of All.
God Is The Uncreated, Uncontingent Prime Mover Who is so far above His Creation that you can only Witness Him as He interacts with Creation.
All God does is for Good Of The Created. From Creating you, to letting you live here, to letting you damn yourself so you can't harm Us.
pagan "gods" are demons. the one you worship is one the norse feared especially, most likely the devil under one of his many assumed names.
chaos is that which is so stupid, evil, pointless, monstrous, and hateful that it would be better for nothing to exist at all than for that to exist.
mammon is the ancient syrian word that literally translates to “cruel master” but is used practically to mean “false god,” inspired by the ancient syrians viewing the various strange rituals of pagans and saying “I don’t know what those idiots are worshiping, but whatever they are, it’s evil!”
the worshipers of the “cult of belphegor” or “ba’al peor” (lit. “the lord of feculence”) would eat poop, rub it all over themselves, and then their ultimate “ritual” was to slice their bodies to ribbons with blades and then drown themselves in a swimming pool of diarrhea. the pool of diarrhea (the diarhhea was squirted out in the death-throes of the people who ritualistically ate the poop before) at was under a sun-roof totally exposed to the elements 24/7, so it was sun-baked and covered with pond-scum and rain water. The “idea” (lol) was promised “apotheosis” if the person sliced up would drown totally in the death-poop and then walk out “immortal” if they survived (none did). I don’t know if they left the sliced-up dead bodies in the death poop pool, but I wouldn’t put it past them.
the worshipers of the “cult of oanan” would masturbate each other 24/7 in a circle until they died, and those who died were considered “unworthy” of the “apotheosis” that would “come” if they survived the constant masturbation (none survived).
the worshipers of the “cult of priapus” would have sex 24/7 and would either be killed or forced to commit suicide if they ejaculated, because that was an affront to their “god” that was a giant erect penis that never ejaculated, and if one could be erect forever and never ejacuate they could be a “god” too (none survived).
the worshipers of the “cult of baphomet” or the “cult of sibile” would cut their dicks off, dress like women, and then murder girls to “absorb their female soul” to change into women to “be like” their “gods.”
the worshipers of the “cult of beelzebub” or “ba’al zebub” (lit. the lord of the flies, to reference this creature as being a giant pile of shit) would convince their hectic worshipers that sinning nonstop, committing suicide, and unforgivably blaspheming would make them “be like gods.”
St Paul said money is the “new” mammon because all of the evils the ancient pagans would do in delusion of “apotheosis” are now done for a paycheck.
I wonder how many real Christians are in the Vatican. And by real Christians, I mean those who accept every word of the Nicene Creed.
About a devade ago, I attended a seminar given by two priests on Christian contemplation. Both men, unprompted, asserted that they don't believe in the supernatural Jesus...
I am not at all surprised at those priests. Among theologians it is bon ton and has been for a long time not to believe anything at all. But they do believe in the church that feeds them which bothers me. That's how I came to my (not so nice) statement about the Vatican.
Being not a Christian myself I tend to get mixed up when Christians are divided into two camps, the real and the not so real ones.
Ah, so your devilry makes you unforgivably blaspheme. What made you think piling worse on top of terrible was the play?
Venerable Fulton Sheen on you:
“The modern man is no longer a unity, but a confused bundle of complexes and nerves. He is so dissociated, so alienated from himself that he sees himself less as a personality than as a battlefield where a civil war rages between a thousand and one conflicting loyalties. There is no single overall purpose in his life. His soul is comparable to a menagerie in which a number of beasts, each seeking its own prey, turn one upon the other. Or he may be likened to a radio, that is tuned in to several stations; instead of getting any one clearly, it receives only an annoying static.
If the frustrated soul is educated, it has a smattering of uncorrected bits of information with no unifying philosophy. Then the frustrated soul may say to itself: “I sometimes think there are two of me a living soul and a PhD.” Such a man projects his own mental confusion to the outside world and concludes that, since he knows no truth, nobody can know it. His own skepticism (which he universalizes into a philosophy of life) throws him back more and more upon those powers lurking in the dark, dank caverns of his unconsciousness. He changes his philosophy as he changes his clothes. On Monday, he lays down the tracks of materialism; on Tuesday, he reads a best seller, pulls up the old tracks, and lays the new tracks of an idealist; on Wednesday, his new roadway is Communistic; on Thursday, the new rails of Liberalism are laid; on Friday, he-hears a broadcast and decides to travel on Freudian tracks: on Saturday, he takes a long drink to forget his railroading and, on Sunday, ponders why people are so foolish as to go to Church. Each day he has a new idol, each week a new mood. His authority is public opinion: when that shifts, his frustrated soul shifts with it.”
Also Venerable Fulton Sheen about you:
“But it is anything but progress to act like mice and eat the foundations of the very roof over our heads. Intolerance about principles is the foundation of growth, and the mathematician who would deride a square for always having four sides, and in the name of progress would encourage it to throw away even only one of its sides, would soon discover that he had lost all his squares. So too with the dogmas of the Church, of science, and of reason; they are like bricks, solid things with which a man can build, not like straw, which is “religious experience,” fit only for burning.
A dogma, then, is the necessary consequence of the intolerance of first principles, and that science or that church which has the greatest amount of dogmas is the science or the church that has been doing the most thinking. The Catholic Church, the schoolmaster for twenty centuries, has been doing a tremendous amount of solid, hard thinking and hence has built up dogmas as a man might build a house of brick but grounded on a rock. She has seen the centuries with their passing enthusiasms and momentary loyalties pass before her, making the same mistakes, cultivating the same poses, falling into the same mental snares, so that she has become very patient and kind to the erring pupils, but very intolerant and severe concerning the false. She has been and she will always be intolerant so far as the rights of God are concerned, for heresy, error, untruth, affect not personal matters on which she may yield, but a Divine Right in which there is no yielding. Meek she is to the erring, but violent to the error. The truth is divine; the heretic is human. Due reparation made, she will admit the heretic back into the treasury of her souls, but never the heresy into the treasury of her wisdom. Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. And in this day and age we need, as Mr. Chesterton tells us, “not a Church that is right when the world is right, but a Church that is right when the world is wrong.””
God Himself to St Catherine Of Sienna on why He Marked you but longer:
“Do you know dearest daughter, how I raise the soul out of her imperfections? Sometimes I v3x her with evl thoughts and a st4rile mind. It will seem to her that I have left her completely, without any feeling whatever. She does not seem to be in the world, because she is in fact not there; nor does she seem to be in me because she has no feeling at all other than that her will does not want s1n.
I do not allow en4ms to open the gate of the will that is free. I do let the dvls and other en4ms of humankind beat against other gates, but not against this, which is the main gate guarding the city of the soul. I do not will the soul’s d4th as long as she is not so stpd as to open the gate of her will. They cannot enter unless her own will chooses to let them in.”
your curses are CONSUMMATELY, COMPLETELY, TOTALLY Returned!
I attend a church which uses the Apostle's Creed rather than the Nicene Creed. Judging by our former priest's answer when I asked him for his take on the filioque (he largely shared my own views!) I suspect it may have been something to do with that (note he had no problem with the supernatural). So I'm relaxed about the exact creed used - but concur that it's important to have a litmus test, precisely as conceived by the Council of Nicaea.
The One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church Is The Eternal, Indefectible, Immutable, Indestructible, And Most Of All Catholic Body And Bride Of Christ. The Perfection Of Israel. Created By The Holy Spirit In 33AD, Everything Promised To Israel And Man is Perfected In The Church In Full.
The Church Created EVERYTHING you know, don't know and take for granted.
Without your Remaining Catholic Capital you lose EVERYTHING.
As I have been saying quote a lot lately, what precisely convinced you and many others that unforgivable blaspheming is beneficial?
By-definition, yes. you don’t know what “chaos” means, but you are desperate to be offended at being called out because all you care about is actualizing whatever lies demons told you, other than that words are just tools. It’s a large part of what we mean by that, but also why God Marked you!
chaos - that which is so stupid, evil, pointless, monstrous, and hateful that it would be better for nothing to exist at all than for that to exist.
Again, The One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church Is The Eternal, Indefectible, Immutable, Indestructible, And Most Of All Catholic Body And Bride Of Christ. The Perfection Of Israel. Created By The Holy Spirit In 33AD, Everything Promised To Israel And Man is Perfected In The Church In Full. The Church Created EVERYTHING you know, don't know and take for granted. Without your Remaining Catholic Capital you lose EVERYTHING.
Not only would you lose everything without The Church, God Would Destroy ALL Creation To Protect Us And Her. So no, you cannot be without Us. all your evil was a lie, and never was going to be any different!
God Himself To St Catherine Of Siena on why you lot are all Marked:
“Do you know dearest daughter, how I raise the soul out of her imperfections? Sometimes I vex her with evil thoughts and a sterile mind. It will seem to her that I have left her completely, without any feeling whatever. She does not seem to be in the world, because she is in fact not there; nor does she seem to be in me because she has no feeling at all other than that her will does not want sin.
I do not allow enemies to open the gate of the will that is free. I do let the devils and other enemies of humankind beat against other gates, but not against this, which is the main gate guarding the city of the soul. I do not will the soul’s death as long as she is not so stupid as to open the gate of her will. They cannot enter unless her own will chooses to let them in.”
you didn’t just let them in, you worship them.
their curses are CONSUMMATELY, COMPLETELY, TOTALLY Returned!
Very EXCELLENT BEAT DOWN, but ultimately misdirected. Humanity does NOT crave the spiritual. It craves the MATERIAL. People may crave the spiritual, but not humanity. Our current crises of fake "science", climate change and Covid-19, is the kind of backsliding into hocus-pocus that will happen when the so-called "elites" can no longer associate themselves with MIRACLES - like color TV, space travel, life-saving medicines, etc.. This was all very well laid out by Walter Lippman over a century ago (see "A Preface to Morals").
We crave the source of our very being without ever truly having known it. Like the disconnect from nature as rural dwellers became urban dwellers,saw, within a generation or two, the general malaise grow amongst the urbanites. One that has grown to huge proportions today, with poor mental health,( just look at the amount of people, globally, on anti - anxiety, and antidepressants,)being just one of the manifestations of the disconnect from Nature. People have lived and died without knowing what that nagging, persistent sense of lack, of a craving for something they could not put their finger on, was. A return, however brief, to the majestic outdoors. To wonder. To marvel at the power of its creator. It’s possible to not know. It’s playing out right in front of our eyes. Every day. People are not on a bus/ train/ plane. They’re online.
They’re already here. In child sizes as well as tailor made adult sized one. Just one more disgusting part of the malady. They won’t satisfy anybody long term, physically or spiritually. Or do you mean they rise up and stage a revolution. Either way, they are a symptom of the problem, not the single problem. The disconnect from nature, and then because of this and the secular structure that has been made the norm for our society, is the problem. We are like fish out of water. Craving what our predecessors of just a few .generations ago saw as normality
Good points, but why is it a “beat down”. Also, I’m beginning to think using the term Covid-19 is a bit of a cop-out / diversion; gain of function (GOF) is the real issue - Covid was a side effect. Bad science compounded by media apologetics.
They’re already here. In child sizes as well as tailor made adult sized ones. Just one more disgusting part of the malady. They won’t satisfy anybody long term, physically or spiritually. Or do you mean they rise up and stage a revolution. Either way, they are a symptom of the problem, not the single problem. The disconnect from nature, and then because of this and the secular structure that has been made the norm for our society, is the problem. We are like fish out of water. Craving what our predecessors of just a few generations ago saw as normality
False premises lead inexorably to retarded conclusions.
Or GIGO, as they say.
Little Nate has assumed his first premise as axiomatically true IN SPITE of the millennia of evidence that says otherwise. (Not to mention the crime statistics.)
TL;DR: intellect and logic is unlikely to lead one out of the darkness where intellect and logic have led one into in the first place. But there *might* be a cure.
Little Nates have always been good at reasoning their course through the quagmires of Academia. Little Nates however are NOT THINKERS or they would stay away from the quag.
In fact Little Nates are not even aware that thinking requires both mind and soul whereas their reasoning only takes a bit of brain and education.
There's an absurd amount wrong, but one glaring example is religiosity among the elites is higher than the lower classes. That in itself is reason to assume he is not as facts and logic as he pretends.
Thanks, of course all the other factors around attendance and reason for attendance are ignored or at least not discussed.
Like maybe people with HS only, are twice as likely to be working on the sabbath.
As with certain races, commerce is most likely (+50%) to be discussed and concluded in religious gatherings and for those races education is seen as highly desirable.
There are social pressures to be seen at churches for specific social strata.
But yes you have provided the data.
However you conflate 'religiosity" with attendance rather than their beliefs.
Good piece Briggs. Little Nate's problem isn't his reasoning. It's his priors, his probative evidence. He seems to have very limited experience with human beings and how they think and act. Logic and reason are a very small part of how we form or discard beliefs. It has a lot more to do with need and desire. People who believe that 'all people are inherently equal and external realities should be arranged to reflect that equality'-a fair rough definition of woke-do so because they need to or desire to. They may feel that their social status depends on believing this, or that believing this will fulfill some other need or desire but I am extremely skeptical that there is any calculation that graphs such as Nate's will reach.
DEI was the death knell of American intellectuals life and creativity...The best were ignored and the worst were promoted...No wonder that China is handing us our lunch and it's composed of MRE's.....And at least in my home State, it started in the 1970s, not the 2000's.....
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Truth.
Since the late 1970s our nation, us, and our neighbors have been that frog in pot slowly coming to a boil - Poverty of liberty, wealth, and speech.
My economic research into the brutal strangulation of this nation's lifeblood by the Federal Government and large Corporations and this proposal could be a significant start to set us all and the nation back to life. All the relevant data and information on this slow-motion holocaust - is public for you or anyone to collect and compile, but I already did that.
The Universal Dividend Income (UDI) correction proposal will need some modeling, and suggestions for the proper balancing of carets and sticks for all the powerful players.
I'll add this article which reports the mass retardation of mental faculties and acceptance of the clear insanities displayed daily from those people near us all, and even our-own blindness;
If you followed along with the 2009 Mortgage-Loan-Fraud, and-or if you studied about it later, do you remember what was missing in the events? Of course, the bail-out money should have been stripped from the criminals' bloodline first, then our tax-payers money. Sure, and of course there weren't all the criminals from business, government, everywhere else, not in court. That was missing - sure, but I mean the absence of all them publicly hanged streamed live across the world - that would bring some trust back in the dollar, and the warning that any others with hang with all older adults in their Sick bloodline.
I knew so many people that suffered those 2009 events badly, lost lifesavings, homes, many suicides (luckily no one I knew well). We'd stop 'while-collar' crime or they would die in public, then their corpses being pissed on by any of their victims that would like, Streaming world-wide to show the world that we will protect the dollar and our honor, even if every adult in every powerful family world-wide has to hang in public.
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More on the decades of harm to us and nation;
After suffering nearly all my adult life in debt, unable to have a large family, no home with mortgage paid, no wife to be home full-time to manage home and children, no resources for vacations, .., and multiply my needlessly crippled life by the millions not born, not married, not debtless, homeless, suicided, .. and so if I had the ability and power I'd hire every skilled detective of economics (and others) to compile the crimes and the criminals, publicly hang the criminals (including their networks of supports) and send all the older adults in their bloodlines deep in the Canadian North forests to camping village(s). And they would have more wealth then our average homeless. Sending them away from any power. They can't harm us anymore, or poison others like they would do, and did to the criminals - warped from childhood.
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Thank you in advance for your consideration and any feed-back you might send. I believe I've shown and argued that someone could generate at least 2 papers for peer review. And I would like to warn as many of our co-victims that the real rulers Hate us and all we love or could have loved, .. they like a grossly obese person that takes all the food and shelters from us and all our children because they find pleasure in watching us suffer and die.
Maybe if enough people understood the crimes and what was stolen from our lives, to our suffering and deaths, needlessly, profiting the criminals little. If so, and by the Will of God We could put the world and all our futures into Right-Order, return Truth and Justice, and so make way for world peace, prosperity, lives full of Meaning and Service to Man and God;
And if it is not God's Will for Us, then maybe enough people can learn of these proposals and ideas and at the very least know with Faith that the World and all us can return to sanity, virtue, with reasonably good hope for future.
But much better if my proposals and Service offer were supported, accepted, and came into being. I hope you can agree - who else do you know that can do it. Perhaps you can spread this around. This is possible, and I have at least one other path to world-wide peace, prosperity, virtuousness, Sanity, Justice, Charity, .., filled with Meaning, Joy, and Love.
Although I'm actually an empiricist, I'm sufficiently honest with myself to recognize that empiricism (sometimes called "*the* scientific method", along with Ockham's razor etc) is based on faith. And faith comes in many forms - including elites' views of their own supposed empiricism, which unkindly might be construed as ideological. Evidently Little Nate doesn't appreciate that!
From which I conclude that all self-described elites should train up in both philosophy of science and logic (as far as Godel's Theorem) before they start blathering on about either science or logic... at least they'd have to try harder to conceal their ideological biases. :)
More broadly, the existence and content of social media seems to demonstrate that nobody reads Wittgenstein any more. "Whereof one cannot know, thereof one must be silent".
A bit tangential, but here's a relevant (at least in respect of the words "science" and "equality") excerpt from what I think to be George Orwell's most important work, published in between Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty Four but actually underpinning both:
“...The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice, have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of régime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using that word if it were tied down to any one meaning. Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different. Statements like Marshal Pétain was a true patriot, The Soviet press is the freest in the world, The Catholic Church is opposed to persecution, are almost always made with intent to deceive. Other words used in variable meanings, in most cases more or less dishonestly, are: class, totalitarian, science, progressive, reactionary, bourgeois, equality.
Now that I have made this catalogue of swindles and perversions,…”
No disagreement with the thrust of the piece, but I don't see the need for this snide passive-aggressiveness. Nate's efforts are worthwhile, though they cannot solve the problem on their own. There's worse ways to go about advancing our interests than spreading HBD awareness, from within the University-industrial complex no less! Seems like a worthwhile effort to me, though it's not the political/propaganda silver bullet we'd all like it to be. He's a fellow traveler pushing in the same direction we are, I don't see any reason to belittle/mock him outside of the usual in-house ribbing we usually do. Am I wrong?
Nate and some of his buddies identify Elite Human Capital as those lucky enough to be recognized by their elders and betters as Elites. "Someone who was smart thought they were smart", a lightly paraphrased quote. So these brown-nosers picked by brown-nosers picked by ... well you get it ... are unsurprisingly conformist. What a revelation! In this process of unnatural selection we have a pack of fools that Nate thinks are most likely to be accept evidence and reason to a correct solution. No, they won't. They have been selected as those who will put status before all other values. They are like fish who instantly change directions in coordination with the motions of the school.
"Smart people have far more influence than dumb people over the culture."
Well, the thing is:
1. "Smart" centrists, and cons, kept their mouth shut while the slow march through the institutions took place
2. The same "smart" people who works in the remaining free institutions, i.e.. Think tanks, etc. not only do nothing about culture, but also gate keep the solutions
3. The same "smart" people are so dumb, they can't recognize the soft power of culture while having no interests in investing in it, meanwhile the cultural-industrial complex has close to unlimited funding
Next time you/we feel the urge to mock people like Nate, perhaps we should take a cold long hard look in the mirror first cause we're not that bright.
“If they recognized that disparities are the fault of Mother Nature … “
What ever does this boy mean? I’m struggling to work out, being cerebrally challenged. The word “fault” agitates me. It sounds to me as though that thing called BLAME is begging to be assigned somewhere. Which, of course, calls for SOLUTIONS. What could that lead to? Hmmm … I wonder …
Anyway, Cofnas sounds as though one of the animals in Animal Farm had suddenly had the brilliant idea of appealing to the pigs’ vastly superior intellect through the medium of an earnest petition.
Cofnas need only look at the behavior of people in his own life to see where the problem lie. He knows many people that “know he’s right” on the facts and logic but still “throw him under the bus”.
Elite Human Capital of the kind Cofnas likes, having not love or affinity other than for its own convenience, isn’t going to adapt beliefs that are costly. They are either going to lie about it in public, or if that level of deception is too psychologically taxing lie about it in private in their own minds until they believe it.
If your living in a majority/minority society and especially if your pot committed to “the left” there is just no way “I’m going to be honest about brown people being dumb” is going to work out for you personally. And these are not the kind of people that stick their neck out for….ordinary white people in flyover country? Cofnas hates those people.
Charles Murray did this schtick back when the country was a lot whiter, when he actually had sympathy for the proles, and he was a much better communicator. He got nowhere. It’s just not a winning message.
If you really want people to reject universalism, it’s going to be because they love particularism. They want to defend say ordinary white people because they like whites. And because they like whites that are willing to pay the price to defend them against wokeness.
I want to like Cofnas but he seems to hate all the people whose help he needs to succeed. He’s not elite, but he is elitist. Unfortunate because he does have plenty to offer to the right.
Our tragically ruined societies are the direct result of elites rejecting Truth incarnate. "Scientific" or psychological arguments used to explain their state of madness are exercises in sophistry.
There is only one question: God or Mammon? How you answer that leads you to either Christ or Chaos.
Perhaps the most powerful drive in human nature is tribalism. Once the prominent ideology is stable, everyone can figure out what they mean by "God" and "Mammon"... As usual, the two are inexplicably mixed. :)
Inexplicably or inextricably (hi Ray)?
Either way! :)
Then I'll have it my way.
Inextricably but highly explicably because of a phenomenon called 'religion'.
Leaving religion aside, God and Mammon are lightyears apart.
Everybody is on their own.
Come on, you’re smarter (I Hope) than this unintentional (I Hope) blaspheming!
First, a cornerstone of liberalism is that somehow Love, Absolute Truth, And Natural Law (Reality) as well as The Church are just somehow subordinated to liberal “absolutes” of race and politics; this being “discovered” after their “new atheism” necessarily backslid into metastacized non-Christ-referencing protestantism.
politics, race, (especially) tribalism, or whatever other subhuman nonsense you have been convinced by 500 years of “‘licensed’ slavery to “give you ‘power’” are arbitrary things made in the 19th and 20th century by your freemason masters once protestant lies became too obvious to the adherents.
Literally nothing you hold as a standard is even real, let alone True, moderns are an artificial simulacrum of global satanist despotism.
Second, let’s define some terms:
God Is. God Is Father Of All.
God Is The Uncreated, Uncontingent Prime Mover Who is so far above His Creation that you can only Witness Him as He interacts with Creation.
All God does is for Good Of The Created. From Creating you, to letting you live here, to letting you damn yourself so you can't harm Us.
pagan "gods" are demons. the one you worship is one the norse feared especially, most likely the devil under one of his many assumed names.
chaos is that which is so stupid, evil, pointless, monstrous, and hateful that it would be better for nothing to exist at all than for that to exist.
mammon is the ancient syrian word that literally translates to “cruel master” but is used practically to mean “false god,” inspired by the ancient syrians viewing the various strange rituals of pagans and saying “I don’t know what those idiots are worshiping, but whatever they are, it’s evil!”
the worshipers of the “cult of belphegor” or “ba’al peor” (lit. “the lord of feculence”) would eat poop, rub it all over themselves, and then their ultimate “ritual” was to slice their bodies to ribbons with blades and then drown themselves in a swimming pool of diarrhea. the pool of diarrhea (the diarhhea was squirted out in the death-throes of the people who ritualistically ate the poop before) at was under a sun-roof totally exposed to the elements 24/7, so it was sun-baked and covered with pond-scum and rain water. The “idea” (lol) was promised “apotheosis” if the person sliced up would drown totally in the death-poop and then walk out “immortal” if they survived (none did). I don’t know if they left the sliced-up dead bodies in the death poop pool, but I wouldn’t put it past them.
the worshipers of the “cult of oanan” would masturbate each other 24/7 in a circle until they died, and those who died were considered “unworthy” of the “apotheosis” that would “come” if they survived the constant masturbation (none survived).
the worshipers of the “cult of priapus” would have sex 24/7 and would either be killed or forced to commit suicide if they ejaculated, because that was an affront to their “god” that was a giant erect penis that never ejaculated, and if one could be erect forever and never ejacuate they could be a “god” too (none survived).
the worshipers of the “cult of baphomet” or the “cult of sibile” would cut their dicks off, dress like women, and then murder girls to “absorb their female soul” to change into women to “be like” their “gods.”
the worshipers of the “cult of beelzebub” or “ba’al zebub” (lit. the lord of the flies, to reference this creature as being a giant pile of shit) would convince their hectic worshipers that sinning nonstop, committing suicide, and unforgivably blaspheming would make them “be like gods.”
St Paul said money is the “new” mammon because all of the evils the ancient pagans would do in delusion of “apotheosis” are now done for a paycheck.
Now you know.
Your question is sound, it's the classical formula after all.
The "or" of your answer sets me floundering.
Reading about the Vatican it seems that Christ & Chaos manage perfectly well together.
I wonder how many real Christians are in the Vatican. And by real Christians, I mean those who accept every word of the Nicene Creed.
About a devade ago, I attended a seminar given by two priests on Christian contemplation. Both men, unprompted, asserted that they don't believe in the supernatural Jesus...
I am not at all surprised at those priests. Among theologians it is bon ton and has been for a long time not to believe anything at all. But they do believe in the church that feeds them which bothers me. That's how I came to my (not so nice) statement about the Vatican.
Being not a Christian myself I tend to get mixed up when Christians are divided into two camps, the real and the not so real ones.
Ah, so your devilry makes you unforgivably blaspheme. What made you think piling worse on top of terrible was the play?
Venerable Fulton Sheen on you:
“The modern man is no longer a unity, but a confused bundle of complexes and nerves. He is so dissociated, so alienated from himself that he sees himself less as a personality than as a battlefield where a civil war rages between a thousand and one conflicting loyalties. There is no single overall purpose in his life. His soul is comparable to a menagerie in which a number of beasts, each seeking its own prey, turn one upon the other. Or he may be likened to a radio, that is tuned in to several stations; instead of getting any one clearly, it receives only an annoying static.
If the frustrated soul is educated, it has a smattering of uncorrected bits of information with no unifying philosophy. Then the frustrated soul may say to itself: “I sometimes think there are two of me a living soul and a PhD.” Such a man projects his own mental confusion to the outside world and concludes that, since he knows no truth, nobody can know it. His own skepticism (which he universalizes into a philosophy of life) throws him back more and more upon those powers lurking in the dark, dank caverns of his unconsciousness. He changes his philosophy as he changes his clothes. On Monday, he lays down the tracks of materialism; on Tuesday, he reads a best seller, pulls up the old tracks, and lays the new tracks of an idealist; on Wednesday, his new roadway is Communistic; on Thursday, the new rails of Liberalism are laid; on Friday, he-hears a broadcast and decides to travel on Freudian tracks: on Saturday, he takes a long drink to forget his railroading and, on Sunday, ponders why people are so foolish as to go to Church. Each day he has a new idol, each week a new mood. His authority is public opinion: when that shifts, his frustrated soul shifts with it.”
Also Venerable Fulton Sheen about you:
“But it is anything but progress to act like mice and eat the foundations of the very roof over our heads. Intolerance about principles is the foundation of growth, and the mathematician who would deride a square for always having four sides, and in the name of progress would encourage it to throw away even only one of its sides, would soon discover that he had lost all his squares. So too with the dogmas of the Church, of science, and of reason; they are like bricks, solid things with which a man can build, not like straw, which is “religious experience,” fit only for burning.
A dogma, then, is the necessary consequence of the intolerance of first principles, and that science or that church which has the greatest amount of dogmas is the science or the church that has been doing the most thinking. The Catholic Church, the schoolmaster for twenty centuries, has been doing a tremendous amount of solid, hard thinking and hence has built up dogmas as a man might build a house of brick but grounded on a rock. She has seen the centuries with their passing enthusiasms and momentary loyalties pass before her, making the same mistakes, cultivating the same poses, falling into the same mental snares, so that she has become very patient and kind to the erring pupils, but very intolerant and severe concerning the false. She has been and she will always be intolerant so far as the rights of God are concerned, for heresy, error, untruth, affect not personal matters on which she may yield, but a Divine Right in which there is no yielding. Meek she is to the erring, but violent to the error. The truth is divine; the heretic is human. Due reparation made, she will admit the heretic back into the treasury of her souls, but never the heresy into the treasury of her wisdom. Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. And in this day and age we need, as Mr. Chesterton tells us, “not a Church that is right when the world is right, but a Church that is right when the world is wrong.””
God Himself to St Catherine Of Sienna on why He Marked you but longer:
“Do you know dearest daughter, how I raise the soul out of her imperfections? Sometimes I v3x her with evl thoughts and a st4rile mind. It will seem to her that I have left her completely, without any feeling whatever. She does not seem to be in the world, because she is in fact not there; nor does she seem to be in me because she has no feeling at all other than that her will does not want s1n.
I do not allow en4ms to open the gate of the will that is free. I do let the dvls and other en4ms of humankind beat against other gates, but not against this, which is the main gate guarding the city of the soul. I do not will the soul’s d4th as long as she is not so stpd as to open the gate of her will. They cannot enter unless her own will chooses to let them in.”
your curses are CONSUMMATELY, COMPLETELY, TOTALLY Returned!
I attend a church which uses the Apostle's Creed rather than the Nicene Creed. Judging by our former priest's answer when I asked him for his take on the filioque (he largely shared my own views!) I suspect it may have been something to do with that (note he had no problem with the supernatural). So I'm relaxed about the exact creed used - but concur that it's important to have a litmus test, precisely as conceived by the Council of Nicaea.
The One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church Is The Eternal, Indefectible, Immutable, Indestructible, And Most Of All Catholic Body And Bride Of Christ. The Perfection Of Israel. Created By The Holy Spirit In 33AD, Everything Promised To Israel And Man is Perfected In The Church In Full.
The Church Created EVERYTHING you know, don't know and take for granted.
Without your Remaining Catholic Capital you lose EVERYTHING.
As I have been saying quote a lot lately, what precisely convinced you and many others that unforgivable blaspheming is beneficial?
Is it just that you are Marked?
For some reason, I cannot edit my comment, so I’ll put it here: your curses are CONSUMMATELY, COMPLETELY, TOTALLY Returned!
Are you claiming that all non-christian societies are chaotic?
By-definition, yes. you don’t know what “chaos” means, but you are desperate to be offended at being called out because all you care about is actualizing whatever lies demons told you, other than that words are just tools. It’s a large part of what we mean by that, but also why God Marked you!
chaos - that which is so stupid, evil, pointless, monstrous, and hateful that it would be better for nothing to exist at all than for that to exist.
Again, The One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church Is The Eternal, Indefectible, Immutable, Indestructible, And Most Of All Catholic Body And Bride Of Christ. The Perfection Of Israel. Created By The Holy Spirit In 33AD, Everything Promised To Israel And Man is Perfected In The Church In Full. The Church Created EVERYTHING you know, don't know and take for granted. Without your Remaining Catholic Capital you lose EVERYTHING.
Not only would you lose everything without The Church, God Would Destroy ALL Creation To Protect Us And Her. So no, you cannot be without Us. all your evil was a lie, and never was going to be any different!
God Himself To St Catherine Of Siena on why you lot are all Marked:
“Do you know dearest daughter, how I raise the soul out of her imperfections? Sometimes I vex her with evil thoughts and a sterile mind. It will seem to her that I have left her completely, without any feeling whatever. She does not seem to be in the world, because she is in fact not there; nor does she seem to be in me because she has no feeling at all other than that her will does not want sin.
I do not allow enemies to open the gate of the will that is free. I do let the devils and other enemies of humankind beat against other gates, but not against this, which is the main gate guarding the city of the soul. I do not will the soul’s death as long as she is not so stupid as to open the gate of her will. They cannot enter unless her own will chooses to let them in.”
you didn’t just let them in, you worship them.
their curses are CONSUMMATELY, COMPLETELY, TOTALLY Returned!
Very EXCELLENT BEAT DOWN, but ultimately misdirected. Humanity does NOT crave the spiritual. It craves the MATERIAL. People may crave the spiritual, but not humanity. Our current crises of fake "science", climate change and Covid-19, is the kind of backsliding into hocus-pocus that will happen when the so-called "elites" can no longer associate themselves with MIRACLES - like color TV, space travel, life-saving medicines, etc.. This was all very well laid out by Walter Lippman over a century ago (see "A Preface to Morals").
Humanity thinks it craves the material, but it is simply confused.
It craves the God whom created it, whether it knows it or not.
You cannot not know you crave something. That´s the whole point of the crave, like stepping on a nail. You feel it pretty direct.
We crave the source of our very being without ever truly having known it. Like the disconnect from nature as rural dwellers became urban dwellers,saw, within a generation or two, the general malaise grow amongst the urbanites. One that has grown to huge proportions today, with poor mental health,( just look at the amount of people, globally, on anti - anxiety, and antidepressants,)being just one of the manifestations of the disconnect from Nature. People have lived and died without knowing what that nagging, persistent sense of lack, of a craving for something they could not put their finger on, was. A return, however brief, to the majestic outdoors. To wonder. To marvel at the power of its creator. It’s possible to not know. It’s playing out right in front of our eyes. Every day. People are not on a bus/ train/ plane. They’re online.
Sex robots. The next revolution.
They’re already here. In child sizes as well as tailor made adult sized one. Just one more disgusting part of the malady. They won’t satisfy anybody long term, physically or spiritually. Or do you mean they rise up and stage a revolution. Either way, they are a symptom of the problem, not the single problem. The disconnect from nature, and then because of this and the secular structure that has been made the norm for our society, is the problem. We are like fish out of water. Craving what our predecessors of just a few .generations ago saw as normality
I suggest this short essay from George Orwell:
https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/can-socialists-be-happy/
He brings up a very interesting question: Happiness, or Perfection?
Good points, but why is it a “beat down”. Also, I’m beginning to think using the term Covid-19 is a bit of a cop-out / diversion; gain of function (GOF) is the real issue - Covid was a side effect. Bad science compounded by media apologetics.
"The world, Indie? It doesn't want to be saved."
--Sallah (John Rhys-Davies, in Raiders of the Lost Ark")
I'd hate for you to find out that movie quotes are bullshit.
They’re already here. In child sizes as well as tailor made adult sized ones. Just one more disgusting part of the malady. They won’t satisfy anybody long term, physically or spiritually. Or do you mean they rise up and stage a revolution. Either way, they are a symptom of the problem, not the single problem. The disconnect from nature, and then because of this and the secular structure that has been made the norm for our society, is the problem. We are like fish out of water. Craving what our predecessors of just a few generations ago saw as normality
Nonsense. Try not blaspheming with your modernist cope, Please?
Morals - The Act Of Being Responsible.
"hocus pocus" - protestant unforgivably blasphemous mishearing of "Hoc Est Corpus" ("This Is My Body") In The Mass.
you are taken by the capital sin of gluttony and are projecting such:
the attempt to replace The Need For God (The God-Shaped Hole In Our Hearts) with what isn't God.
you do so by despair because your pride has been refuted.
your curses are CONSUMMATELY, COMPLETELY, TOTALLY Returned!
False premises lead inexorably to retarded conclusions.
Or GIGO, as they say.
Little Nate has assumed his first premise as axiomatically true IN SPITE of the millennia of evidence that says otherwise. (Not to mention the crime statistics.)
Related:
https://open.substack.com/pub/gurwinder/p/why-smart-people-hold-stupid-beliefs
TL;DR: intellect and logic is unlikely to lead one out of the darkness where intellect and logic have led one into in the first place. But there *might* be a cure.
Delightful comments have been posted already.
Little Nates have always been good at reasoning their course through the quagmires of Academia. Little Nates however are NOT THINKERS or they would stay away from the quag.
In fact Little Nates are not even aware that thinking requires both mind and soul whereas their reasoning only takes a bit of brain and education.
Would you care to expound on " thinking requires both mind and soul" and just for clarity define the terms "thinking" and "soul".
There are two answers to your question.
Either ask Little Nate or read Martin Heidegger on the first Greek thinkers and their short sayings.
So just to be clear, you have no idea what you mean by your words and therefore hide your lack of knowledge by meaningless gibberish.
“Temporality temporalizes as a future which makes present in the process of having been.”
And this is somehow profound?
You can't/won't define terms and thus believe that you have discovered some new truth.
I can give you "42".
Just to be even clearer, why don't you ask me to expound on the terms "brain" and "education"?
I am going to, right after I ask a chimp to explain differential calculus.
I am likely to get the same level of response.
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Albert Einstein — 'If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.'
There's an absurd amount wrong, but one glaring example is religiosity among the elites is higher than the lower classes. That in itself is reason to assume he is not as facts and logic as he pretends.
He is just a discount Stephen Pinker.
" .... religiosoty among the elites is higher than the lower classes." :
Do you have any source or data to support that assertion?
Does that apply to all religions or only a specific religion?
https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/highly-educated-men-are-more-likely
Thanks, of course all the other factors around attendance and reason for attendance are ignored or at least not discussed.
Like maybe people with HS only, are twice as likely to be working on the sabbath.
As with certain races, commerce is most likely (+50%) to be discussed and concluded in religious gatherings and for those races education is seen as highly desirable.
There are social pressures to be seen at churches for specific social strata.
But yes you have provided the data.
However you conflate 'religiosity" with attendance rather than their beliefs.
Its good enough to show Cofnas has no clue what hes talking about.
Good piece Briggs. Little Nate's problem isn't his reasoning. It's his priors, his probative evidence. He seems to have very limited experience with human beings and how they think and act. Logic and reason are a very small part of how we form or discard beliefs. It has a lot more to do with need and desire. People who believe that 'all people are inherently equal and external realities should be arranged to reflect that equality'-a fair rough definition of woke-do so because they need to or desire to. They may feel that their social status depends on believing this, or that believing this will fulfill some other need or desire but I am extremely skeptical that there is any calculation that graphs such as Nate's will reach.
DEI was the death knell of American intellectuals life and creativity...The best were ignored and the worst were promoted...No wonder that China is handing us our lunch and it's composed of MRE's.....And at least in my home State, it started in the 1970s, not the 2000's.....
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Truth.
Since the late 1970s our nation, us, and our neighbors have been that frog in pot slowly coming to a boil - Poverty of liberty, wealth, and speech.
My economic research into the brutal strangulation of this nation's lifeblood by the Federal Government and large Corporations and this proposal could be a significant start to set us all and the nation back to life. All the relevant data and information on this slow-motion holocaust - is public for you or anyone to collect and compile, but I already did that.
The Universal Dividend Income (UDI) correction proposal will need some modeling, and suggestions for the proper balancing of carets and sticks for all the powerful players.
"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2223:, 14th July 2025, State's Organized Planned Disempowerment of the American Citizen" https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2223
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I'll add this article which reports the mass retardation of mental faculties and acceptance of the clear insanities displayed daily from those people near us all, and even our-own blindness;
"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2227:, 27th September 2025, The Ongoing Worldwide Rape of Mind and Soul to fully realize Homo Umbrans" https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2227
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If you followed along with the 2009 Mortgage-Loan-Fraud, and-or if you studied about it later, do you remember what was missing in the events? Of course, the bail-out money should have been stripped from the criminals' bloodline first, then our tax-payers money. Sure, and of course there weren't all the criminals from business, government, everywhere else, not in court. That was missing - sure, but I mean the absence of all them publicly hanged streamed live across the world - that would bring some trust back in the dollar, and the warning that any others with hang with all older adults in their Sick bloodline.
I knew so many people that suffered those 2009 events badly, lost lifesavings, homes, many suicides (luckily no one I knew well). We'd stop 'while-collar' crime or they would die in public, then their corpses being pissed on by any of their victims that would like, Streaming world-wide to show the world that we will protect the dollar and our honor, even if every adult in every powerful family world-wide has to hang in public.
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More on the decades of harm to us and nation;
After suffering nearly all my adult life in debt, unable to have a large family, no home with mortgage paid, no wife to be home full-time to manage home and children, no resources for vacations, .., and multiply my needlessly crippled life by the millions not born, not married, not debtless, homeless, suicided, .. and so if I had the ability and power I'd hire every skilled detective of economics (and others) to compile the crimes and the criminals, publicly hang the criminals (including their networks of supports) and send all the older adults in their bloodlines deep in the Canadian North forests to camping village(s). And they would have more wealth then our average homeless. Sending them away from any power. They can't harm us anymore, or poison others like they would do, and did to the criminals - warped from childhood.
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Thank you in advance for your consideration and any feed-back you might send. I believe I've shown and argued that someone could generate at least 2 papers for peer review. And I would like to warn as many of our co-victims that the real rulers Hate us and all we love or could have loved, .. they like a grossly obese person that takes all the food and shelters from us and all our children because they find pleasure in watching us suffer and die.
Maybe if enough people understood the crimes and what was stolen from our lives, to our suffering and deaths, needlessly, profiting the criminals little. If so, and by the Will of God We could put the world and all our futures into Right-Order, return Truth and Justice, and so make way for world peace, prosperity, lives full of Meaning and Service to Man and God;
" Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2228:, 8th October 2025, By the Will of God, Our First possible 'Treatise Concerning ..' From Offices of Papal-King" https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2228
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And if it is not God's Will for Us, then maybe enough people can learn of these proposals and ideas and at the very least know with Faith that the World and all us can return to sanity, virtue, with reasonably good hope for future.
But much better if my proposals and Service offer were supported, accepted, and came into being. I hope you can agree - who else do you know that can do it. Perhaps you can spread this around. This is possible, and I have at least one other path to world-wide peace, prosperity, virtuousness, Sanity, Justice, Charity, .., filled with Meaning, Joy, and Love.
God Bless., Steven
Although I'm actually an empiricist, I'm sufficiently honest with myself to recognize that empiricism (sometimes called "*the* scientific method", along with Ockham's razor etc) is based on faith. And faith comes in many forms - including elites' views of their own supposed empiricism, which unkindly might be construed as ideological. Evidently Little Nate doesn't appreciate that!
From which I conclude that all self-described elites should train up in both philosophy of science and logic (as far as Godel's Theorem) before they start blathering on about either science or logic... at least they'd have to try harder to conceal their ideological biases. :)
More broadly, the existence and content of social media seems to demonstrate that nobody reads Wittgenstein any more. "Whereof one cannot know, thereof one must be silent".
A bit tangential, but here's a relevant (at least in respect of the words "science" and "equality") excerpt from what I think to be George Orwell's most important work, published in between Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty Four but actually underpinning both:
“...The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice, have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of régime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using that word if it were tied down to any one meaning. Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different. Statements like Marshal Pétain was a true patriot, The Soviet press is the freest in the world, The Catholic Church is opposed to persecution, are almost always made with intent to deceive. Other words used in variable meanings, in most cases more or less dishonestly, are: class, totalitarian, science, progressive, reactionary, bourgeois, equality.
Now that I have made this catalogue of swindles and perversions,…”
(Orwell 1946; also available at https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/politics-and-the-english-language/)
No disagreement with the thrust of the piece, but I don't see the need for this snide passive-aggressiveness. Nate's efforts are worthwhile, though they cannot solve the problem on their own. There's worse ways to go about advancing our interests than spreading HBD awareness, from within the University-industrial complex no less! Seems like a worthwhile effort to me, though it's not the political/propaganda silver bullet we'd all like it to be. He's a fellow traveler pushing in the same direction we are, I don't see any reason to belittle/mock him outside of the usual in-house ribbing we usually do. Am I wrong?
Nate and some of his buddies identify Elite Human Capital as those lucky enough to be recognized by their elders and betters as Elites. "Someone who was smart thought they were smart", a lightly paraphrased quote. So these brown-nosers picked by brown-nosers picked by ... well you get it ... are unsurprisingly conformist. What a revelation! In this process of unnatural selection we have a pack of fools that Nate thinks are most likely to be accept evidence and reason to a correct solution. No, they won't. They have been selected as those who will put status before all other values. They are like fish who instantly change directions in coordination with the motions of the school.
"Smart people have far more influence than dumb people over the culture."
Well, the thing is:
1. "Smart" centrists, and cons, kept their mouth shut while the slow march through the institutions took place
2. The same "smart" people who works in the remaining free institutions, i.e.. Think tanks, etc. not only do nothing about culture, but also gate keep the solutions
3. The same "smart" people are so dumb, they can't recognize the soft power of culture while having no interests in investing in it, meanwhile the cultural-industrial complex has close to unlimited funding
Next time you/we feel the urge to mock people like Nate, perhaps we should take a cold long hard look in the mirror first cause we're not that bright.
“If they recognized that disparities are the fault of Mother Nature … “
What ever does this boy mean? I’m struggling to work out, being cerebrally challenged. The word “fault” agitates me. It sounds to me as though that thing called BLAME is begging to be assigned somewhere. Which, of course, calls for SOLUTIONS. What could that lead to? Hmmm … I wonder …
Anyway, Cofnas sounds as though one of the animals in Animal Farm had suddenly had the brilliant idea of appealing to the pigs’ vastly superior intellect through the medium of an earnest petition.
Cofnas need only look at the behavior of people in his own life to see where the problem lie. He knows many people that “know he’s right” on the facts and logic but still “throw him under the bus”.
Elite Human Capital of the kind Cofnas likes, having not love or affinity other than for its own convenience, isn’t going to adapt beliefs that are costly. They are either going to lie about it in public, or if that level of deception is too psychologically taxing lie about it in private in their own minds until they believe it.
If your living in a majority/minority society and especially if your pot committed to “the left” there is just no way “I’m going to be honest about brown people being dumb” is going to work out for you personally. And these are not the kind of people that stick their neck out for….ordinary white people in flyover country? Cofnas hates those people.
Charles Murray did this schtick back when the country was a lot whiter, when he actually had sympathy for the proles, and he was a much better communicator. He got nowhere. It’s just not a winning message.
If you really want people to reject universalism, it’s going to be because they love particularism. They want to defend say ordinary white people because they like whites. And because they like whites that are willing to pay the price to defend them against wokeness.
I want to like Cofnas but he seems to hate all the people whose help he needs to succeed. He’s not elite, but he is elitist. Unfortunate because he does have plenty to offer to the right.