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Gwyneth's avatar

"Remember Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes exhausts and murders itself. There never was a Democracy Yet, that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to Say that Democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious or less avaricious than Aristocracy or Monarchy. It is not true in Fact and no where appears in history. Those Passions are the same in all Men under all forms of Simple Government, and when unchecked, produce the same Effects of Fraud Violence and Cruelty. When clear Prospects are opened before Vanity, Pride, Avarice or Ambition, for their easy gratification, it is hard for the most considerate Phylosophers and the most conscientious Moralists to resist the temptation. Individuals have conquered themselves, Nations and large Bodies of Men, never."

- Letter from John Adams to John Taylor, 17 December 1814

Jeremy Poynton's avatar

Yup. Thank you for that. Bookmarked

ScuzzaMan's avatar

The corollary to feminine politics is making all men effeminate. Part of this is preventing them from becoming adult males in any healthy or normal sense (because adult males are not ruled by women).

There's good reasons (eloquently described in the OP) why this was known in ancient times as a curse.

"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths."

Yes. Exactly like the British government is doing.

David Sharples's avatar

Well said. This experiment of feminine politics is very recent, and very ugly.

I'll often read this article again, because it's so rich.

"Something has gone wrong in modern cultural and political life. Only those hopelessly numb, or deceived by the academic parlor tricks of someone like Steven Pinker, can observe the state of things and not see serious problems on the horizon. The Great and the Good have become the mediocre and the lame. The conditions necessary for civic and personal virtue have steadily eroded. Even if a cataclysm never comes, a civilization contenting itself to die on history’s hospice bed is crisis enough..."

https://firstthings.com/what-is-the-longhouse/

John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

In fairness to the men of England married to such unattractive harridans, assisted suicide offers a less painful exit to their marriages than does divorce.

Having children went from being a gift from God to a burden imposed on the new god: the Self. The fruits of the "rational" Enlightenment.

la chevalerie vit's avatar

August 18, 1920 - 19th Amendment.

Over the next 52 years and five months the number of states legalizing fetucide grew to five: California, Washington, New York, Alaska, Hawaii.

I’m curious to know the timeline of the five complete legalizations to assess potential correlation and alignment with Bradford-Hill.

On January 22, 1973, these seven men, while spelunking in the Constitution, claimed to discover the federal right to legalized womb-resident murder concommitant with a definition that life begins at 6 months - because somehow there can be no life if it is still dependent upon the mother: Chief justice Warren E. Burger, Potter Stewart, William O. Douglas, William Brennan, Lewis F. Powell, Thurgood Marshall, Harry Blackmun.

These two failed to persuade the other 7, not only that God did not command “the viable, thou shalt not murder [Hebrew commonly kistranslated as kill]” but also that the same due process clause of the 14th Amendment, wherein this new shiny right was discovered, also protects any person from the deprivation of life (so again, only viability determines personhood) : Byron White, William Rehnquist

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_US_abortion_laws_pre-1973.svg

https://www.britannica.com/event/Roe-v-Wade

https://marketrealist.com/p/1973-supreme-court-justices/

Gunther Heinz's avatar

Your "fetucide" made me think immediately of fettuccine.

la chevalerie vit's avatar

There’s no federal right to Alfredo either 😉

Rather Curmudgeonly's avatar

Yet another SC line-up would determine that you could be penalized for failing to buy health insurance, or eat broccoli, all as Congress decides. When you go back as far as Dred Scott, it's been wrong as much as it's been right.

Roger Sterling's avatar

Seems to me that England has given itself over to demonic powers and will reap the rewards.

Longstreet's avatar

One of the great tragedies of the west was giving women the right to vote. It’s ironic that wise men have always understood the civilizing influence of women generally. But their talent is in the micro, not the macro. The home, not the nation.

It is long past time for men to embrace being strong and unemotional.

Steven Work's avatar

May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Clarity.

Pardon this uninvited request for your attention and for any kind feed-back from your review of this, my humble Theological and Worldly offering to God, Church, and Man.

The insanities-accepting evil-blindness world-wide Sickness we are suffering from must be address by Moral and Intellectual powerful forces, and God Willing I pray that a version of this may be Championed by the Church and Her Body of Jesus Christ on earth, uniting all of Her and drawing pagan and lost souls to Her and towards Salvation. Tiny effort for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, impossible without Him.

If this is as valuable as I hope it will be, perhaps your office's effort in reformatting a version to present to the Vatican, with your co-authorship, to finely drive out the 50+ year-old Satanic foothold on earth and in so many souls - the evil Form from Hell Named Abortion, and in making clear to all the world the reason why and how this wide-spread life-Love-Joy-Hope destroying damage has already crippled generations of people across the world. And that is far far too many.

In this Offering I hope to have addressed the cause of this ever-accelerating worldly Fall away from God's Grace, Truth, Love, Justice, Charity, Right-Ordering, Holy Goodness in every dimension, this Fall into Hell.

While in private meditation and prayer I hoped to gain Inspiration and Clarity on the root reasons why this once Christian-virtue value-based Sane Western nation that I remember in early 1970s, how it mutated into today's deformed malignant evil-forming Death-spreading accross the West, and the rest of the world.

This deadly cancerous-expanding; Intellectually, Judgmentally, Rationality and other mental-faculties crippling, and other shockingly damaged that has broken each generation, ever more insane-accepting evil-Blinded Fear-Parallelized Confused Lost soul-weakened feminized God-averting, unwillingness or inability to Sacrifice and Suffer in Service to God, Church, Man, Nation, Family, right-ordering institutions and systems.

In meditation I glimpsed that the evil hand-print of unTrue, unJust, disOrder matching of this increasingly rapid 'damage pattern', similar to the less aggressive damages caused by Sin.

I reviewed Saint Thomas Aquinas' related work and in considering this more aggressive path and it's seeming universality - I theorized that the cause permanently exists and often damages each victim almost always, regardless of the person's intention or activities.

It must be Stopped ASAP, before more significant damage is done. We all should be able to see that the entire West and most of the world suffers from it, and we all are getting worse.

What caused this Spiritual soul-murdering Plague?

If willing sin causes the damages outlined by Saint Aquinas, the Fatherless unProtected insane-accepting mother-raised children, from a very young age are psychologically-disOrdered such that it cements in child an automatic life-long self-harming state, from the crib. Psychologically manipulated and forced to accept insanities, treating them as normal or even praiseworthy.

Raising children from a vulnerable mentally-helpless age with clear insanities; mothers hiring minions to torture-to-death our unborn babies, our brothers and sisters, our uncles, our neighbors, our potential life-long friends, wives, husbands, .. they each silently screaming while being ripped-apart in an act of infinite betrayal of Man, God, herself and the father, Sacrificed to Satan or specific Demons that exchange unHoly powers or unHoly collected information unlimited in time and distance.

Such Betrayal and grave sins is Contempt of God, Contempt of Natural Law, Contempt of family, of community, of self, of Justice, of Love, of right-Order, and Mankind.

Such evil reCasts womanhood and motherhood into Damning forms Called-by-Sin out of Hell, empowered to walk the earth near and in them, That motherhood is transformed from nurturing loving life-supporters with Hands that are Guided by Holy Virgin Mother Mary, demonically changed to Poison Clawed torturers that are Guided by Satan - spreading suffering, torment, murder, horrors, death and Hell.

Both these argument versions in articles referenced below are written so they also may be used to argue against Abortion in perhaps a unique Holy Ghost Inspired manner that breaks the Synagogue-of-Satan contrived unresolvable unmovable focus-locked debate “when is unborn baby granted Personhood rights?”

(This unJust insanity, demonically hijacked and manipulated to the censorship of other forms of argument, and has been suffered through last 50+ years, and uncounted baby-murders world-wide in my lifetime, all while Satanic corporation Dragons are granted Personhood Rights the instant It's demonic Form is Called from Hell, along with the instant legal immunity from Justice for Evils that It's Satanic minion owners Will it to do.)

These arguments in articles below do not address the back-up debate position - that mothers have a 'bodily right' to rid herself of the unintended unborn-baby that is consuming her Body and Blood to live and grow.

This often-used back-up baby-murdering position is a legal debate I hope will go to SCOTUS, be Justly ruled and so be shown as vicious-evil-insane, and then womanhood may finally be Lovingly treated, restricted from legal immunity to murder and instead forced to act like a man and take responsibility for their actions (that risked the pregnancy) and so be forced to carry to birth the unborn person instead of murdering and disposing of them in the trash.

Then maybe Sick Western womanhood will stop acting badly as victims of our generations of insane-society, our unLovingly treatment of them, so they no longer be spoiled self-destructive pathologically broken & abused moral-infants.

“My body, my Choice to risk pregnancy, and if pregnancy follows - than the old murder-choice is no longer available.”

The most significant aspect of my anti-Abortion argument is it's un-linked to any actual unborn babies, the damage from young childhood would continue even if no unborn people were at risk of being tortured-to-death on mother's delusional psychotic whimsy.

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AI generated audio overview of article;

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/dcc1110c-6fdc-4966-a0a6-10948155a59c/audio

Full article;

"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2220:, 9th July 2025, A Letter to Traditional Catholic Bishops, Calling for Champions."

https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2220

Libertarian's avatar

England, and all of Europe, started the process of killing itself at least as early as WWI over a hundred years ago and lost an entire generation of their best young men. Ditto for Germany and France. They lost more wealth in the Great Depression and their hyperinflation event. Then they doubled down in WWII to annihilate themselves. After that they have been in hospice living off the slow drip of Socialism and Communism, both of which depend on the productivity and wealth of other people. Between wars, abortions of millions of their own ethnicity, and mass immigration from Africa and Middle East; Europe is already dead and those are only death rattles you hear on the continent.

Nate Winchester's avatar

Feminism was never about having the privilege of men, but having the privilege of pretty women.

Though England's issues is hardly purely the fault of women. It's the fault of a narrative taking hold of the culture that instills guilt upon the populace.

CS Lewis once wrote on the dangers of national repentance:

"Unfortunately the very terms in which national repentance is recommended to him conceal its true nature. By a dangerous figure of speech, he calls the Government not ‘they’ but ‘we’. And since, as penitents, we are not encouraged to be charitable to our own sins, nor to give ourselves the benefit of any doubt, a Government which is called ‘we’ is ipso facto placed beyond the sphere of charity or even of justice. You can say anything you please about it. You can indulge in the popular vice of detraction without restraint, and yet feel all the time that you are practising contrition. A group of such young penitents will say, ‘Let us repent our national sins’; what they mean is, ‘Let us attribute to our neighbour (even our Christian neighbour) in the Cabinet. whenever we disagree with him, every abominable motive that Satan can suggest to our fancy.’"

And now we can see that no only was this idea granting people a chance to hate their neighbors, but it has now spread and become so infectious it has caused people to hate themselves. Satan is just as happy to have you murder yourself as he is having you murder anyone else. It's still the image of God you are marring.

Gunther Heinz's avatar

Two observations: The enemy of hypocrisy is humor (especially the vulgar kind), which is why we get laws against "hate speech", and rampant TDS.

Second observation (and one that Briggs will probably not agree with) is that the growing pressure to kill off old people is an ORGANIC response to demographic imbalance. For the first time in human experience, there is now an excess of old people, and it will only get worse. And a "solution" to the problem will eventually manifest itself, with all its moral complexity. But we should not confuse that complexity with cause. It is simply effect. Social organization across all animal species is predicated on the survival of the species, and not the individuals within it.

The next step is to organize death in such a way that it becomes fun. Or maybe make fun so unbearable that we prefer death.

Rather Curmudgeonly's avatar

Men don't really exercise the franchise with more thought and better result than women. So it is just a little facile to blame women for all the ills of modern politics. Karl Marx wasn't a woman.

William M Briggs's avatar

Yes they do, and anyway that wasn't the point, which is that these particular mandates would not have happened where it not for women in politics.

Rather Curmudgeonly's avatar

The problem is with any popularity-based governance, and the more broad the vote the lower the quality of the result.

I will grant maybe half of the problem stems from feminization, but Rousseau and Marx weren't feminists, and a great deal of modern trouble flows directly from them. Feminists didn't invent Critical Theory (even as they latched onto it), the men at the Frankfurt School did.

Gunther Heinz's avatar

You are absolutely correct. One of the most shocking and fascinating things I experience as a young person in the Navy in the early 80's, was to witness how easy the American redneck allowed himself to be seduced by an Asian guy dressed up as doll. Meanwhile, Asian women would be just standing by, watching these two cultures of men getting it on. Evidently their role as women was subordinate, but hardly passive. I think it actually made them more open-minded, which is why I preferred them to "dolls". I think the problem with Briggs is that he served in the Air Force, which unlike the Navy is an entirely sterile environment, even on Okinawa.

PE Bird's avatar

You should read some of Engles (I know, he is the least literate of the 3).

Jeremy Poynton's avatar

Lose God, and as the song says - Anything Goes...

Thomas Mahoney's avatar

PD James - The Children of Men

Wærmund Westleah's avatar

Psalm 37:8-15:

"Refrain from anger, and forsake wrath! Fret not yourself; it tends only to evil. For the evildoers shall be cut off, but those who wait for the Lord shall inherit the land.

In just a little while, the wicked will be no more; though you look carefully at their place, they will not be there. But the meek shall inherit the land and delight themselves in abundant peace.

The wicked plots against the righteous and gnashes his teeth at him, but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he sees that his day is coming.

The wicked draw the sword and bend their bows to bring down the poor and needy, to slay those whose way is upright; their sword shall enter their own heart, and their bows shall be broken."

Rather Curmudgeonly's avatar

"The second most efficient way of killing, in a sense, was that first emphasized by Thomas Malthus, which is to prevent conception in the first place."

I assume you mean by this demographic death, and not really the destruction of souls by reducing unplanned pregnancies. Margaret Sanger, for all of her faults, was not an advocate for abortion as birth control.

a-gent Roger W. Duelist's avatar

"People have no general right of restraint against insult. Furthermore, you do not own your reputation, since this consists of the ideas other people have of you, and you cannot own other people’s thoughts. For that reason, laws against libel and slander, for the Rothbardian, are ruled out. Waldron asks: If laws forbid libel of a person, why not laws against group libel as well? A more un-Rothbardian argument could hardly be imagined."

https://mises.org/friday-philosophy/why-we-should-hate-hate-speech-laws

I read that article yesterday.

In my view, Conservatism can never be as clear on this issue of freedom of speech as Rothbardianism. Libertarians in general suck on freedom of speech, but most libertarians are not Rothbardians, or even Aristotelians. Most libertarians are just very lousy utilitarians, total weather vanes, incapable of defending any freedom, much less freedom of speech and of conscience.

Back to the topic: Liberals and Progressives are so bad that now the Conservatives have to do their job too, and stand against the State, who is going full-Nazi on the weakest people, which is the exact opposite of Christian Civilization. This is the New Order of Barbarians, a revolution of revolutions. But I doubt conservatives can save the day now: the system must be destroyed, somehow. I confess I still think the main problem in all this is best explained by economics and I remain unpersuaded by Nationalist arguments. I side with those very few Conservatives who argue for the political strategy of repudiating national debt, collapsing everything and starting over. Which will cause much death and sorrow, and it's difficult to do and to argue for. It's tragic how much wickedness there is everywhere these days.